Rig / kit combinations - for a newby

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thecat
thecat
VIC
35 posts
VIC, 35 posts
3 Feb 2006 5:01pm
so this is a question that's never being asked before from a complete beginner............

how do you know what kit is compatible with other kit eg. what boom goes with what sails, what masts with what boards/sails etc etc ???

i'm looking to get my first kit together and unless a good package comes up looks like i will be buying separates, problem is i don't want to buy something then struggle to find the other bits that go with it

is it based on size ranges, manufacturer or what ?
anybody recommend a good source of info to get some guidelines as i'm sure there's loads of combinations

cheers
ju_724
ju_724
231 posts
231 posts
3 Feb 2006 6:46pm
Generally when you buy a sail you will get the information on what boom/mast is required on the sail or the sail bag.

when you buy a board the shop will tell you the recommended sail / fin sizes or you can look them up on the manafacturers web site.

Best to go to a windsurf shop for advice, if you've got one near you!They will make sure you get exactly the correct gear for what you need to get going, and if you don't want to buy new, they always have 2nd hand gear.

Also go down to you local beach and ask some experienced windsurfers for some info.
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14968 posts
QLD, 14968 posts
3 Feb 2006 9:59pm
if you are a complete beginner then your money would be better spent on lessons from a qualified ayf instructor. you will learn rigging, how to turn around, sailing upwind and downwind and self rescue. (you may find that your local tafe organises something as well).

if you can already do the items mentioned above then drop into a local shop and see what gear they have plus tell them what you have been sailing. think big volume board. Try to buy second hand as it is cheaper and you may outgrow it fairly quickly. sail size for beginners is realy a question of body weight and how windy it is in your local area. let us know how far you have progressed so far for more advice. eg. 1) have you had any lessons? 2) can you sail out and back in again easily 3) can you sail upwind 4) can you beach start 5)can you use a harness. 6) can you use foot straps 7) can you carve gybe. 8) can you water start. also, what gear have you used so far?
thecat
thecat
VIC
35 posts
VIC, 35 posts
4 Feb 2006 11:44am
cheers for that, i'll pop into SHQ today and see what they got.

I've had a few lessons but i'm still very much in the basics ie. can do a triangle and still pulling sail up standing on board which I can now do quite easy. Last lesson I used a 205L about 2.6m, had no problem geting up on this although wind conditions were pretty crap so didn't get to do much.

Is there a big difference from a 205L and a 150L, would I still be able to float on a 150L to uphaul ? I'm about 75kg. Or would this be too much of a step ?

Thanks
shwell
shwell
WA
15 posts
WA, 15 posts
4 Feb 2006 10:21am
Lessons are no doubt good but not imperative. I watched the Tom Luedecke vid and bought a 140 litre board (thought it was 200 litre's at the time) off ebay for $250. The board came with 2 sails, one a 6.5, the other 5 sqm and an adjustable boom. The 140 liter board (bic 210s) floats for a fat bastard like me, i weigh 105 kg.

Look forward to a 15 hour spacko stage. There's heaps of info on the net re: sailing theory. Get into it, it's awesome.
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14968 posts
QLD, 14968 posts
4 Feb 2006 12:34pm
150l board should be ok but look for something wide, 90cm or so. sounds like 170l would be the better. (you are a lightweight.)

Higher volume boards that are wider are more forgiving when learning. eg a 300lt board that is only 45cm wide would be hard to balance on. but a 170lt board that is 90cm wide would be easier. something like "Starboard Go"

the trick is to keep your feet near the centreline of the board. you should be only sailing in winds up to 10knots when learning. go in the morning before the seabreeze kicks in and then as the wind strengthens throughout the day you can slowly test yourself more. also, avoid locations with a strong current. a 5.7m sail should be ok for wind up to 15knots. once you are more proficient and you start to go out in stronger winds you could use a 5.0m. so a 400cm mast should be ok. avoid cambered race sails, they are to heavy.

a board like the starboard go is good because you can use it all the way up to learning carve gybes, harness and footstrap techniques.
another is the new F2 lightning. the old F2 lightning was a full race board and not what you are after. try to get something made after 2000. all the gear just got better after that. easier to sail etc.
thecat
thecat
VIC
35 posts
VIC, 35 posts
4 Feb 2006 10:00pm
cheers much appreciated, gives me some idea what to look for now

ps. don't think i'll stay a lightweight if i keep putting those cherry slices away
eckas
eckas
NSW
323 posts
NSW, 323 posts
4 Feb 2006 11:04pm
To keep the costs down, you've got to do some maths. Start by choosing a mast, based on the approximate sail size you want.
Eg, a 430 mast will typically rig from a 5m to a 6.5m sail. A 460 mast will typically rig from a 6m to a 8m sail. A 490 mast will typically rig from an 7.5m to a 9m sail. If you're lucky, the combination of your weight, your experience and you're board will allow to to buy 1 mast but rig two sail off it. I'd say you'd be looking at a 460 mast, and two sails of approx 6 and 7 sq metres. You may be tempted to go for a small combo, but remember, if you need smaller sails, the water will inevitably be choppy, and that big old beginner board will be an absolute handful, catching wind underneath it, trying to take flight, and crashing from chop face to chop face. Master your skills in lighter winds, then get a more appropriate board for heavier winds. Once you've got your sails, just choose a boom which covers both sizes. Then you'll have a 1 mast/2 sail/1 boom combo - good value for money if you ask me.

Eckas.
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