Right of way collision?

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HF
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17 Nov 2011 5:52am
nebbian
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17 Nov 2011 9:01am
Reminds me of when Chris was demonstrating an aerodynamic principle to me in Mandurah, sailing along literally 50cm upwind yelling out "Can you feel it? How about now?"

As to who's at fault? Meh. Racing incident. They both knew where the other one was, no harm, no foul

Great footage HF!
MikeyS
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17 Nov 2011 12:26pm
Clearly caused by downdraft. Gotta stop putting up self-incriminating evidence, HF!
Magnus8
Magnus8
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17 Nov 2011 12:17pm
Its those Pryde sails, it was too heavy to hang on to......
Windxtasy
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17 Nov 2011 10:26am
what happened to the picture?
mr love
mr love
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17 Nov 2011 2:28pm
Maybe Chris was trying to do his fart joke. 'Pull my finger, come on, pull my finger"
Mr. No-one
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17 Nov 2011 4:15pm
The up wind sailer has track position and right of way, it's up to the downwind sailer to make a safe passing move. Looks like he tried to push Chris up wind but he said no you don't and rightly so.
Nice footage Col, got all the angles covered
stringer
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17 Nov 2011 4:33pm
Mr. No-one said...

The up wind sailer has track position and right of way, it's up to the downwind sailer to make a safe passing move. Looks like he tried to push Chris up wind but he said no you don't and rightly so.
Nice footage Col, got all the angles covered



that goes against the sailing rule that i recall whereby the boat to leeward can make the windward boat round up into the wind by calling up.
Bender
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17 Nov 2011 4:44pm
Sh#T guys i hope you filled on the hole you made!!
AUS4
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17 Nov 2011 8:25pm
Mr. No-one said...

The up wind sailer has track position and right of way, it's up to the downwind sailer to make a safe passing move. Looks like he tried to push Chris up wind but he said no you don't and rightly so.
Nice footage Col, got all the angles covered





Chris is in the wrong.
izaak
izaak
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17 Nov 2011 8:33pm
haha nice vid
Mark _australia
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17 Nov 2011 6:11pm
Funny and between mates so who cares about ROW.......but I say Chris is in the wrong - overtaking vessel must keep clear. Over rides any upwind / downwind etc as if you seek to pass you keep clear.

2alluring
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17 Nov 2011 10:00pm
stringer said...

Mr. No-one said...

The up wind sailer has track position and right of way, it's up to the downwind sailer to make a safe passing move. Looks like he tried to push Chris up wind but he said no you don't and rightly so.
Nice footage Col, got all the angles covered



that goes against the sailing rule that i recall whereby the boat to leeward can make the windward boat round up into the wind by calling up.


From a sailing background racing dinghies i tend to agree leeward sailer can push windward sailer up.
slowboat
slowboat
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17 Nov 2011 8:04pm
I was totally in the wrong there if it were a race... I was trying to see how close I could get . It looks flat but it was actually quite rough. I didnt notice but 3 seconds earlier Matt suddenly swung upwind and then I got washed down by a chop just before I hit... as the leach bumped matt it yanked my front hand pulling me into him, and there was no way I could hold it or steer upwind. No damage so it was fine both my boards anyway.
vando
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17 Nov 2011 10:58pm
2alluring said...

stringer said...

Mr. No-one said...

The up wind sailer has track position and right of way, it's up to the downwind sailer to make a safe passing move. Looks like he tried to push Chris up wind but he said no you don't and rightly so.
Nice footage Col, got all the angles covered



that goes against the sailing rule that i recall whereby the boat to leeward can make the windward boat round up into the wind by calling up.


From a sailing background racing dinghies i tend to agree leeward sailer can push windward sailer up.

I thought if the windward sailor is in front he has the right to hold his ground.

Mark _australia
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17 Nov 2011 9:34pm
vando said...

2alluring said...

stringer said...

Mr. No-one said...

The up wind sailer has track position and right of way, it's up to the downwind sailer to make a safe passing move. Looks like he tried to push Chris up wind but he said no you don't and rightly so.
Nice footage Col, got all the angles covered



that goes against the sailing rule that i recall whereby the boat to leeward can make the windward boat round up into the wind by calling up.


From a sailing background racing dinghies i tend to agree leeward sailer can push windward sailer up.

I thought if the windward sailor is in front he has the right to hold his ground.




Yes fellas, but I still submit it is irrelevant as if you are overtaking you must keep clear.


(Chris I missed it before but yeah that bit of chop did push you downwind substantially. I am suprised no damage, bet it was a hoot... that is, once you realised there was no damage )
snides8
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17 Nov 2011 9:43pm
AUS4 said...

Mr. No-one said...

The up wind sailer has track position and right of way, it's up to the downwind sailer to make a safe passing move. Looks like he tried to push Chris up wind but he said no you don't and rightly so.
Nice footage Col, got all the angles covered





Chris is in the wrong.


Ditto
Imo
overtaking boat must keep clear...

As far as i am concerned their both in the wrong as it happened on a weekday[}:)]

hoop
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17 Nov 2011 9:53pm
Yacht racing rules are as follows.
*Windward vessel to keep clear until mast abeam.
* Overtaking vessel to keep clear.
* It's okay to run someone over if it's your mate. Especially if he's one one of your boards.
(not sure if the last one is in the blue book, but maybe it should be)
Reflex Films
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17 Nov 2011 9:54pm
a Collision with Colvision - i like it!
busterwa
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18 Nov 2011 6:09am
Looks like he caught chopper gust.
Sailhack
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18 Nov 2011 9:32am
Obviously the ocean isn't wide enough?
Clazza
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18 Nov 2011 11:08am
Looks like a mistimed freestyle move to me.
One sail in front and one behind. :-P

hoop said...

Yacht racing rules are as follows.
*Windward vessel to keep clear until mast abeam.
* Overtaking vessel to keep clear.
* It's okay to run someone over if it's your mate. Especially if he's one one of your boards.
(not sure if the last one is in the blue book, but maybe it should be)


No such thing as mast abeam anymore
Rule 11 - windward boat keeps clear - is what it is here
Rule 12 - overtaking boat keeps clear - is only really for if someone runs into the back of someone else.
K Dog
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18 Nov 2011 4:36pm
It looks like he has just laided it onto the guy to knock him off... which I think is fair....
MintoxGT
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18 Nov 2011 2:10pm
Who cares, the boyz were being boyz coz thats what boyz do, sadly when I do what they were doing its much much much slower And everyone passes me.......But if I could...........

Crack on fellas and rules are meant to be broken, sometimes

GT
K Dog
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18 Nov 2011 5:19pm
Must be an awesome job being a heli pilot -nice vid HF.

I think their should be more on water shaninigans.... more shaninigains!
Sailhack
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18 Nov 2011 5:51pm
K Dog said...

Must be an awesome job being a heli pilot -nice vid HF.

I think their should be more on water shaninigans.... more shaninigains!


There's always a few "shenanigans" going on around here...we just don't have the choppers on stand-by.

When I was learning, a local 'seasoned' w/surfer (& mate) decided to do a drive-by, a little close & did a small chop-hop behind me. I felt a whack on my calf muscle & both of us hit the water...I was too frightened to feel my leg with my hand because as it was in the middle of winter, and not much feeling due to the cold water, I had a picture in my head of my calf muscle sliced off by his fin. As it turned out, false alarm, it was the rail that got me, so after a few words (and an apology) we both kept on our ways.
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