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Steptoes Son
Steptoes Son
QLD
88 posts
QLD, 88 posts
31 Dec 2006 12:30am

Folks, I've just gotta say that I'm loving this sport. Went for a sail today on the northern beaches and had an absolute blast.
Even though I'm sailing on gear that has been donated, swapped, repaired, home-made and adapted (Wife & 3 kids) I still get a kick out of skimming across the water at sometimes way too fast a speed.
Starting to feel a little weary now as the pump is wearing off but can't wait to get out again soon. Big thanks to the guy who advised me on the length of harness lines (sorry didn't intro myself) and also the mast foot position thing.

One small snag, I've holed my Gasstra 5.4 sail during a spectacular dismount, thought I would have broken something more, but just the sail. It's an older sail and has had some repairs done before, but I have had great use out of it and It's my biggest sail.

Question is what do you use to patch the sucker up, it looks like normal contact to me but am unsure

I look forward to reading this forum everyday and the topics are usually very entertaining to say the least. I've also had some great advice from you all at different times and as a result have progressed to an exciting stage in my boarding.

Wishing you all a breezy new year.

Simon.
mineral1
mineral1
WA
4564 posts
WA, 4564 posts
30 Dec 2006 11:45pm
Mylar sail tpe, get it at any wind shop or sail shop. sent you email.
You at Pinnaroo this afternoon
Mineral
Steptoes Son
Steptoes Son
QLD
88 posts
QLD, 88 posts
31 Dec 2006 12:51am
Mineral. I was at the beach south of pinaroo, next to the breakwater. I don't like to go up with the crowd as I feel like "Pa Kettle" on my rig.

Cheers

Simon.
sonic
sonic
QLD
756 posts
QLD, 756 posts
31 Dec 2006 9:04am
If you not worried about looks "gaffer" tape works as good as anything,just make sure its very dry and do both sides of he sail.
Jethrow
Jethrow
NSW
1282 posts
NSW, 1282 posts
31 Dec 2006 10:10am
G'day Simon

I'm not sure of where you are but I used to work for Whitworths and they sell a clear Mylar tape for doing your repairs and I think they are still in Mossman Park near Freo
Zed
Zed
WA
1274 posts
Zed Zed
WA, 1274 posts
31 Dec 2006 10:31am
How old is your sail and how fooked is it? If the panel is pretty destroyed you can repair it yourself, but you will lose some power from the sail. If you look at Windusrfing Perths website they have quite a few second hand sails, they've got around 10 for $50 or so, older sails, but still good condition e.g NP Core 4.7 - $50. Very good wave sail in it's day.

http://www.windsurfingperth.com.au/sails/used.html

Short of cash? Wait till your kids misbehave and sell their toys...
mineral1
mineral1
WA
4564 posts
WA, 4564 posts
31 Dec 2006 12:23pm
Simon, don’t worry about how old you and gear are, good number of us are in same boat If you had been there yesterday, I would have fixed for you. Carry my repair kit with me all the time.
Great bunch get down to Pinnaroo, most are learning, including me. Have a good laugh among ourselves about who is doing what, who crashed and so on. All share knowledge, and will help with set up when rigging and assist with technique on all aspects.
Sadly looks like I am out for a month or two. Injured yesterday, off to Doc on Wednesday for bone repair
Mineral
CJW
CJW
NSW
1731 posts
CJW CJW
NSW, 1731 posts
31 Dec 2006 2:38pm
If the whole panel isn't torn the best stuff for repairing monofilm is 3M book laminating sheets (A4). You can get them at BigW for $2 a pack. Laugh all you want but this stuff is the absolute bees knees for monofilm sail repairs. It's super super sticky and is thick (tough). I repaired a 60cm long split (several overlapped sheets) in a panel about 1 year ago, still going strong as. The best thing is you can hardly see it. Put it on properly (clean surfaces properly) and your sail will be as good as new...almost :D I even keep a pack in the car haha.
Dip916
Dip916
WA
122 posts
WA, 122 posts
31 Dec 2006 7:21pm
Hi Simon,

I was the guy at Hillarys yesterday. I saw the hole in your sail, - sorry I can't offer any advice on how to fix it as I am only new to these type of sails myself.

Hope you get the hang of avoiding catapults soon! I had a 5.3m sail yesterday. What size did you have?, - if you were seriously overpowered it would have contributed to your wipeouts.

If you see me down there again some time you are welcome to have a go of my rig and see if you are comfortable on a smaller board. The difference using a glass / epoxy board compared to plastic is huge.

Have a good new year! Mike
Steptoes Son
Steptoes Son
QLD
88 posts
QLD, 88 posts
31 Dec 2006 9:15pm
Thanks for all the advice once again to all contributors, Mike I had a 5.4 sail so it was probably more of an adapting to shorter harness strap thing than over power, thanks for the offer of a sail on your rig, we'll see if we run into each other again.
Cheers

Simon.
oldie
oldie
VIC
356 posts
VIC, 356 posts
2 Jan 2007 12:59am
Good tip from CJW. My last repair using school book cover material lasted only until my first fluffed gybe. Seems that this stuff used to work well when it was thicker and stickier, but not now..
Haircut
Haircut
QLD
6491 posts
QLD, 6491 posts
2 Jan 2007 12:33am
if you're not concerned about having a coloured patch I would just buy some "sticky back" dacron tape from the chandlery or sail repairer. It's generally $10 per metre and it is about 2 ft wide. It's generally a sticky sided version of the same material that the batten pockets and trimming is made from. You cut it into strips or patches with scissors, that extend 1 or 2 cm beyond the tear all the way around. I often only bother doing one side of the sail, but if u are paranoid, do both - make sure the sail is clean and dry before applying (just wash with fresh water & then dry it with cloth). i've read that u should avoid using metho or some detergents to clean the area as they are known to make monofilm brittle prematurely
oldie
oldie
VIC
356 posts
VIC, 356 posts
4 Jan 2007 10:31am
Colored patches to customise your rig and strengthen weakareas? Sounds good. Getting desperate here as I can't get the original laminating sheets, either. The new stuff will only stick to itself which doesn't solve the problem.
Latest solution here is to turn the cracks into round holes which then don't propagate and just let the wind blow through. Trouble is that I am facsinated by old sails and can't resist bringing them home to try out.
Got one run out of a KA Terradactyl, so frustrating..
Steptoes Son
Steptoes Son
QLD
88 posts
QLD, 88 posts
18 Jan 2007 11:18pm
Dredged this thread up from a couple of weeks ago to report on the results of repair advise given.

CJW gave this
quote:
If the whole panel isn't torn the best stuff for repairing monofilm is 3M book laminating sheets (A4). You can get them at BigW for $2 a pack. Laugh all you want but this stuff is the absolute bees knees for monofilm sail repairs. It's super super sticky and is thick (tough). I repaired a 60cm long split (several overlapped sheets) in a panel about 1 year ago, still going strong as. The best thing is you can hardly see it. Put it on properly (clean surfaces properly) and your sail will be as good as new...almost :D I even keep a pack in the car haha.


Thanks heaps CJW.
I gotta say it got tested to the max today. Several trips over the handlebars saw this repair hold up without a threat of failing.
I rounded off the edges to prevent lifting and stuck two either side of the sail, the tear was approx 50cm long and jagged.

Thanks to all who gave of their knowledge.
Simon.
mineral1
mineral1
WA
4564 posts
WA, 4564 posts
18 Jan 2007 11:43pm
Simon, careful about going over the handlebars, I am off for some time with nasty fracture doing just that Board stopped, foot took impact.
Glad to hear your fixed for sail repairs

Mike
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