Selecting a 'Select' fin.

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Harrow
Harrow
NSW
4521 posts
NSW, 4521 posts
24 Apr 2006 8:53am
Just checked out the select fins website. Just after I have come to terms with modern boards and sails, I find that fins are a whole new ball game. Chord, foil, etc, etc.

Basically I want a fin to get my board planning earlier with 6.0 to 7.0m sails and stop me drifting sideways in lighter winds, as the 32cm Freeride that came with my board is obviously not large enough.

The ones I think I should be interested in are the Ride, Supercross and Eagle. Can anyone explain the difference between these. I am leaning towards the Ride 36cm. Or maybe a Lightning EVO M 35 or 37?

Thanks,
Harrow.
rosey
rosey
NSW
575 posts
NSW, 575 posts
24 Apr 2006 3:15pm
i was sailing with a mate today who was using select fins, he only just bought them, there was a 39 and a 33 i think..he said they were really good. cant tell you waht model, they were the carbon with yellow lining
rosey
rosey
NSW
575 posts
NSW, 575 posts
24 Apr 2006 3:16pm
sorry, it was about 18knots, 93l jp supercross, 7.0 sailworks retro and he was using the 39 i believe
RAL INN
RAL INN
SA
2898 posts
SA, 2898 posts
24 Apr 2006 3:27pm
quote:
get my board planning earlier

quote:
stop me drifting sideways in lighter winds


Me thinks I would be concentrating on such things as mast foot position, sail tuning, commitment to harness etc. before blaming your fin.

Harrow, there is a definate stage in learning sailboarding that should be called the "my fin is too small" stage. You get through it.
then head for the "my fin is too big stage".
Waiting4wind
Waiting4wind
NSW
1871 posts
NSW, 1871 posts
24 Apr 2006 5:21pm
Hi Harrow, as Ral Inn says, I wouldn't rush out to buy too many fins just yet until you get your board dialed. If you like I can lend you a few PB fins to try out for size. Since going to a slalom board with tuttle fins I have a few I'm not using at the moment. I have a Curtis 34cm Freeride, quite a stiff and powerful fin but gybes nicely. I can also give you a Nth Shore Maui 37cm Slalom, it probably has the same surface area as the 34, more upright, stiffer in the gybe, a bit faster.

I use a Select Viper RS - for light air slalom. It works well although it whistled like a canary (which seems to be common with Selects), fixed this with some sanding on the trailing edge.

You may need to look at a bigger sail before going too much bigger in fin.
drjukka
drjukka
QLD
258 posts
QLD, 258 posts
24 Apr 2006 7:59pm
Ral, Waiting,

You make some valid points to Harrow on fin size.

Harrow, a 32 Freeride sounds too small for 7.0 but may be OK for a 6.0

I run Select fins from 28 cm (5.7 - 6.0) to 35 (7.0). I struggle with the 35 and a 7.0 with getting enough lift from the fin.

As you have noted there are many aspects to fin design and the length,area, chord etc... are all important depending on the the type of sailing you like.

I have 34 that gets me planing earlier than a 35 - bit won't point as well.

IMHO,use a freeride fin - they don't lose moch in terms of top end speed for most sailors and are more comfortable to ride and still point OK. Sail with a bigger fin until you know that it is causing you the problems. The board will 'rail up' and ride like a bronco.



mikey100
mikey100
QLD
1109 posts
QLD, 1109 posts
24 Apr 2006 8:39pm
I have been running a select MEGA 32 on a 7.3m sail on 90L and 105L boards (app 55cm wide) and found the only problem is I point a few degrees lower than those with wide boards and lonfg fins- its just a matter of taking your time to get used to what you've got. A smaller fin than expected allows me to bear off for a speed blast without the fear of the fin taking over and breaking my ankles. Take the offer of trying someone elses fins to see what feels best before spending the $s!
Harrow
Harrow
NSW
4521 posts
NSW, 4521 posts
25 Apr 2006 3:56pm
quote:
Originally posted by Waiting4wind

If you like I can lend you a few PB fins to try out for size.

You may need to look at a bigger sail before going too much bigger in fin.



Thanks Des, it would be good to see whether I notice any difference (and yes, I do need a bigger sail!). Also got to get that wave fin back to you too.

Interestingly I checked with Jamie (on the 115 S-type) and his 32 cm drake was HEAPS wider (about 3cm) than the 32 cm Tabou freeride supplied my board. Albert also put a bigger one on his and one of the other guys with the Tabou 105 was said he didn't like the fin either. Won't rush out and buy a million fins, but will continue to investigate for a larger one for light days (after I get that >6.0 sail)
nebbian
nebbian
WA
6277 posts
WA, 6277 posts
25 Apr 2006 2:49pm
Hi Harrow,

I bought a 37 cm Select Pro-Am fin today, and it made a huge difference compared to the 31 cm freeride (I think it's dakine?) fin I had on before.

Earlier planing, and better pointing...

I now feel as if my board is 'in the window', so a small change in anything is noticeable (harness line posiiton and length). Before this, a small change wasn't noticeable because the small fin was drowning out the other effects.

I even found myself planing when my feet couldn't possibly be near the footstraps... a real first for me, normally I'm the last guy on the plane

ymmv, but that's what my experience is.
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14965 posts
QLD, 14965 posts
25 Apr 2006 7:46pm
definatley think a bigger fin is the go in lighter winds. 36 etc. i made a massive diference to my fish by changing to a bigger fin. and generally like bigger fins allround.

but agree with RAL INN too.

you should also try setting your mast near the very back of the track. you will get more speed in the lighter winds which will allow you to point higher plus your board will feel really lively and loose. (in sub planing conditions this won't work)
move it forward if it gets choppy and the nose starts to wander all over the place.
also, with your sail (if it is cambered) try zero outhaul with min-med downhaul.

not gospel but some ideas...???

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