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ka025
ka025
QLD
181 posts
QLD, 181 posts
19 Sep 2009 9:27pm
Hey all hoping someone can help me with my stuck Prolimit boom. It has been stuck for about a month now with one side of the arms moving freely and the other stuck solid. The two surfaces that are stuck are carbon and Aluminium if this helps. There is no sand in there it is just a kind sea corrosion??!! Please help i really like this boom!!
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12885 posts
WA, 12885 posts
19 Sep 2009 8:04pm
unfortunately carbon and ali don't mix well, electrolysis is a problem. I've had the alli head on a carbon boom corrode very badly before it broke. Not sure if this is your problem but it's likely.
If the outside tube is alli, you could try gently heating it, I think alli expands more than carbon, so that may free it.
ka025
ka025
QLD
181 posts
QLD, 181 posts
19 Sep 2009 10:15pm
decrepit said...

unfortunately carbon and ali don't mix well, electrolysis is a problem. I've had the alli head on a carbon boom corrode very badly before it broke. Not sure if this is your problem but it's likely.
If the outside tube is alli, you could try gently heating it, I think alli expands more than carbon, so that may free it.


Thanks for the response Decrepit. It's just as you say the aluminium is corroding. Will try heating it tomorrow as the outer tube is aluminium, hopefully it works. Will let you know.

nebbian
nebbian
WA
6277 posts
WA, 6277 posts
19 Sep 2009 8:52pm
If it was me I'd clamp the head to something solid, then with a piece of wood hit the tailpiece to try to separate the two parts.

Of course this might break the boom instead of freeing it up So I take no responsibility if you break your gear [}:)]
nick0
nick0
NSW
510 posts
NSW, 510 posts
19 Sep 2009 11:01pm
adding on decrepit if some way u can run cold water down into the carbon tube and hot water onto the alli it will also make a diferance .. other than that hit with block of soft wood and hammer/ mabey try some sort of lube ....wd40 melted vaso .. mabey soap ??
ka025
ka025
QLD
181 posts
QLD, 181 posts
19 Sep 2009 11:13pm
nebbian said...

If it was me I'd clamp the head to something solid, then with a piece of wood hit the tailpiece to try to separate the two parts.

Of course this might break the boom instead of freeing it up So I take no responsibility if you break your gear [}:)]


Problem with this nebbian is that i know someone who had the same boom and it happened to him. He was trying to bang it free and it broke. He ended up chucking it into a tree about a minute later.
Haircut
Haircut
QLD
6491 posts
QLD, 6491 posts
19 Sep 2009 11:46pm

can u leave it soak in a bath with detergent for a while?
nebbian
nebbian
WA
6277 posts
WA, 6277 posts
19 Sep 2009 10:53pm
ka025 said...

Problem with this nebbian is that i know someone who had the same boom and it happened to him. He was trying to bang it free and it broke. He ended up chucking it into a tree about a minute later.


Hmmm... Ok scrap that suggestion
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12885 posts
WA, 12885 posts
19 Sep 2009 11:16pm
Carbon isn't real good for impact strength, it's a bit brittle, so if you need to bang it be very careful where and how you hit. Be better to apply torque somehow, being careful not to crush it.
If the alli is too corroded it's going to be weak and read to break.

Any way good luck!!!
WindmanV
WindmanV
VIC
825 posts
VIC, 825 posts
20 Sep 2009 8:47am
You might try the fix that I use on stuck board bag zips: malt vinegar. The vinegar seems to dissolve/loosen the salt, but it could take 7 days or so to have an effect. My method would be to arrange the boom so that affected arm is vertical, then to liberally pour the vinegar into the arm, at least 4 or 5 times per day (but allowing the vinegar to dry for about an hour internally, between sessions). After several days, you might try to apply pressure to the arm to see if you get movement. I'd suggest not trying to really force the arm until at least 7 days have elapsed.

I didn't invent this use (on zips): found it on another forum. Don't know if other types of vinegars will work and the key to the trick is that it takes TIME for the vinegar to work.

I just finished freeing a stuck zip on a board bag this week (stuck for at least 6 months), applying two coats of vinegar in the morning, then 2 in the afternoon. After freeing, I then sprayed the zip with silcone and will work the spraying into a monthly use.

Are there any chemists in the audience who can explain how/why the vinegar eats away the salt?

Hope this helps.
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14968 posts
QLD, 14968 posts
20 Sep 2009 9:05am
nice,

will use your method on my stuck zips.

i think the answer is that vinegar is an acid.

could also try this according to the interweb.

a teaspoon of cream of tarter and a quarter cup of baking soda mixed with enough hydrogen peroxide to make a thick paste.

or my favourite chlorine and b...e ******.... hehe......
of course the last suggestion is an explossive, and an attempt at humour. DO NOT try it....
brad1
brad1
QLD
232 posts
QLD, 232 posts
20 Sep 2009 10:37am
try a bit of "KY"
izaak
izaak
TAS
2013 posts
TAS, 2013 posts
20 Sep 2009 1:21pm
this did not get it apart but streched the boom about 2 inches !!!!

lee1972
lee1972
QLD
921 posts
QLD, 921 posts
20 Sep 2009 1:37pm
i know how you feel, i have the exact boom and the exact problem. I tried tied one end to my partners car and the other to my van using thick rope. I ended up pulling her car down the drive. Ive given up now.
WINDY MILLER
WINDY MILLER
WA
3183 posts
WA, 3183 posts
20 Sep 2009 3:18pm
lee1972 said...

i know how you feel, i have the exact boom and the exact problem. I tried tied one end to my partners car and the other to my van using thick rope. I ended up pulling her car down the drive. Ive given up now.


what about driving both cars in the opposite direction....

use landcruisers for a bit more grunt

pepe47
pepe47
WA
1382 posts
WA, 1382 posts
20 Sep 2009 4:01pm
Not a chemist but, when we lived in the north west the calcium content in the water was enough to choke up the kettle each month. The solution was to leave vinegar in the kettle overnight. Result, clean kettle. Vinegar will dissolve calcium and lime deposits almost as well as CLR but for less outlay.

On the stuck boom I think I'd try wd40 in the joint till you can wriggle it free. Maybe left overnight??
WindmanV
WindmanV
VIC
825 posts
VIC, 825 posts
20 Sep 2009 6:22pm
Pepe,

Sorry, but I don't think WD40 will work on a fully seized joint. I've personally tried WD40 on stuck zips without success and only the use of malt vinegar was successful. I'll certainly try CLR the next time I have a problem, but I hope that won't happen soon.

In passing, I had TWO board bags with stuck zips in the last 6 months, both of them released after the use of malt vinegar.

Hope this helps.
pepe47
pepe47
WA
1382 posts
WA, 1382 posts
20 Sep 2009 4:51pm
Cheers Windman, I think I'd be dubious about using CLR for an extended period myself as I don't know about it's effects on carbon. I would'nt hesitate to use vinegar as you say.
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