Well, I took the challenge yesterday. Haven't gone for many since I put myself in hospital when one went very wrong. But I was going down badly in a freestyle contest and was just there for fun, so I thought I may as well go down fighting.

I think I got the rotation partly right (it's been almost 20 years...).

Got the rig rotation, I think.

Got the sailor rotation, I think.

The board rotation didn't work at all.

Maybe I shouldn't have tried a flat-water forward on a Windsurfer One Design

Robby Naish and IMCO legends may be able to do forwards on longboards, but 21kg of Wally with only one footstrap just doesn't seem the ideal board

Still, it was a good way to try to get back onto the horse that threw me a long time ago.

I went for a few on my freesex on Saturday, problem was I couldn't find a decent ramp anywhere and I can;t seem to pop and rotate in a decent motion (so i think a wave would help).

Hopefully I can try them on the weekend at Wanda!

Key thing is that I'm pretty much over the fear!

Hey Fatboy, having seen your attempts (though I feel the word "attempt" is giving you too much credit ), I have to question your guarantee .
But I must give you credit for your classy cheeserolls. If anyone could do them as well as you (we won't mention your landings), they wouldn't bother with the inferior manoeuvre that is a forward!

Conditions:
-Comfortably planning but not over powered.
-Small STEEP wave or large STEEP chop. (Waves are easier because you have time to line it up)

Technique:
-Most importantly move your hand back and pull really hard. (Even when you do high or stalled forwards you pull as hard as you can. You will not over rotate your first 50 attempts.)
-Have your feet properly in the straps and your toes curled fully up on the other side of the strap. (Most people have there straps way to tight when trying proper jumps or waveriding. The strap needs to be sitting right on top of your foot, near your ankle.)
-Turn your head and look over your shoulder, not under your armpit. (The only time to look under your armpit is when you are going full end over off a large wave.)

Most importantly, never bail out or you will hurt yourself.
Also, just remember a forward is a stupidly easy manouvre once you get past the mental hang up.

Also, It is not a 'cool' trick. You will never see a pro wavesailor do a forward unless it is to impress a lame judge who can't sail, or they are a euro trying to impress a girl. And pushloops are not cool either, they are a peasants backloop.

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Originally posted by JEFFERSONAlso, It is not a 'cool' trick. You will never see a pro wavesailor do a forward unless it is to impress a lame judge who can't sail, or they are a euro trying to impress a girl. And pushloops are not cool either, they are a peasants backloop.

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Yeah and how many people sail at their local break with 'lame judges' around? The forward loop and the push loop are arguably two of the most spectacular moves in windsurfing, if you want to impress people who really have no idea about the sport those are the moves you do. Do a big forward next to a group of surfers and take note of the look on their faces. The back loop while technically more difficult than a push loop isn't nearly as fun to do, imo, and has nowhere near the visual impact. So yeah I reckon they are cool moves.

Not sure about the pro wavesailors not doing forwards either. I watched the Green Head comp the other week and there were plenty of forwards (among other things) being done by all the top guys. Forwards and pushies are probably the two best looking moves in windsurfing. And before you ask ,no I cant do either.

you'll never pull a Euro peasant girl with that attitude.

Kremlin, you crack me up !!!

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Originally posted by Crash Landing

I went for a few on my freesex on Saturday, problem was I couldn't find a decent ramp anywhere and I can;t seem to pop and rotate in a decent motion (so i think a wave would help).

Hopefully I can try them on the weekend at Wanda!

Key thing is that I'm pretty much over the fear!

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Some guys say a flat forward loop is easier, but I found it easier off a wave. And then as soon as I got that sussed the flat water loops were not too bad. Off flat water what I found helped were:

- lots of speed
- bear away as if u were going in for a gybe
- pop the board - not a chop hop as such just get the board out the water
- then pull in with back hand
- the nose of the board usually hits the water and rotates around it - if that makes sense

Some people make the mistake of sailing along chop hopping then trying it, u need to bear off, I guess I found it easier by doing that.

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Originally posted by JEFFERSON

Conditions:
-Comfortably planning but not over powered.
-Small STEEP wave or large STEEP chop. (Waves are easier because you have time to line it up)

Technique:
-Most importantly move your hand back and pull really hard. (Even when you do high or stalled forwards you pull as hard as you can. You will not over rotate your first 50 attempts.)
-Have your feet properly in the straps and your toes curled fully up on the other side of the strap. (Most people have there straps way to tight when trying proper jumps or waveriding. The strap needs to be sitting right on top of your foot, near your ankle.)
-Turn your head and look over your shoulder, not under your armpit. (The only time to look under your armpit is when you are going full end over off a large wave.)

Most importantly, never bail out or you will hurt yourself.
Also, just remember a forward is a stupidly easy manouvre once you get past the mental hang up.

Also, It is not a 'cool' trick. You will never see a pro wavesailor do a forward unless it is to impress a lame judge who can't sail, or they are a euro trying to impress a girl. And pushloops are not cool either, they are a peasants backloop.

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"pull really hard:" You don't need to pull hard at all, especially if u are powered up.

"The strap needs to be sitting right on top of your foot, near your ankle" - er no - u will probably end up breaking your ankle. For a Forward your feet don't need to be extra tight. When I was learning my feet came out a couple of times, but this was poor technique not loose foot straps

"Also, It is not a 'cool' trick." - there is nothing cooler than a huge stalled forward, End of story. Pros may not do them because tehy've been doing them for 10 years, I don't know, but as far as I'm concerned they're the dogs boll0cks

"Most importantly, never bail out or you will hurt yourself" - that one u got right.

is unhooking from harness critical? I've been finding that it's too hard to unhook in time when you see a bit of chop and only get a split second to line it up