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Thruster fins for Bic Wind SUP 11' 6"

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Created by xxwindsurfer 25 days ago, 12 Mar 2020
xxwindsurfer
9 posts
12 Mar 2020 4:09AM
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Any suggestions?

i find directional control is not great for windsurfing. Seems to want to turn upwind even with dagger board retracted
I suspect the fin - (10" Dolphin) provided with the board may be inadequate for windsurfing.
is it likely that thruster fins will help ?
any recommendations re fin size or make ?

otherwise I do love the board for cruising with a sail in lower winds and as an SUP

US box fin type in centre
Surf board style fin boxes for sides

ducati
QLD, 436 posts
12 Mar 2020 11:36AM
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If you're having trouble with it turning upwind put the mast track forward a bit, move your weight forward, stand in the centre of the board keeping the board flat, DON'T sink the windward rail. Try this first.

I tried thrusters with the original (crap) Bic plastic fin and it did help a bit.
Then I bought a fiberglass 10" dolphin fin and it works great without the thrusters.
Better directional control and less drag when paddling also
I run a 8m sail and use the centreboard in light winds (5kn) and upwind,
but reaching in 10kn and over the bic 11'6 planes nicely with just the 10" FG Dolphin

legless
WA, 833 posts
12 Mar 2020 1:26PM
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I don't think it is a problem with the fins if you are sailing it in light wind. I changed the fins on my wife's Bic 10'6" for shallow water weed and she has no problem going down wind or upwind.




forceten
918 posts
12 Mar 2020 11:14PM
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The side boxes should be FCS , 2 small grub screws hold the fins in contact 2 tabs on the fins. Commonly called FCS originals, newer FCS and some variations are different fitment.
I had a BIC something that I installed a mast track ,10'6", his may have a screw and not therefore not adjustable.
The fins supplied are bottom shelve. That's complimentary .
K4 have a SUP Racing fin, in 2 sizes last I looked. I used a 22cm.
i always used the sides. I would say 10-12cm be close match.
This could be enhanced with the sail size , sailors weight etc . Bla bla bla. Amount of toe in on the sides would influence my pick on the thrusters.
K4 , have the FCS fins , they are asymmetrical also.

i think in 3 years the BIC only planed once. Replaced with a AHD Sea Lion, brilliant.
the BIC IMO , is not a performance Wind Sup.
plenty of FCS , that's the brand of fin and also the fin base, exist. Also plenty of US box fins for the center.
the K4 SUP racing fin and the K4 sides, would be a improvement and very low cost.

RichardG
WA, 3084 posts
12 Mar 2020 11:40PM
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I think the Bic 11'6" has a mast track. I seriously doubt the fin is the issue particularly if you are noticing the problem with the daggerboard retracted. If the board is tending to head upwind then it is likely generating weather helm and this can be caused by rearward mast track car positioning. Move the mast track car to the front will make it easy to bear the board away off the wind and therefore easier to control in heavy winds. I would suggest also that removing the side fins may help as the side fins probably don't work on a board of this length except when you are turning it off the tail. Single fins are best on longer boards in my opinion.

legless
WA, 833 posts
13 Mar 2020 12:49PM
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The Bic 11 6 and 10 6 have a standard windsurfer mast track.




As has been said before putting your mast track forward might help but I think the problem is getting your weight distribution right you might be slightly titling the rail causing you to go upwind usually with a combination of foot steering and sail steering turning your board into a reach the more you starts to move the water flowing over the fin will make if more effective enabling it to track in the desired direction. Turning into the wind is a common problem for people learning and you just have to learn to correct for it until you have enough momentum for the fin to work.

forceten
918 posts
13 Mar 2020 10:55PM
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My board was not a windsup, it was a SuP that I installed the track in. This is one variation on a fin, it worked fine.
After a lot of tri and quad fin, boards both store bought and converted, my experiences may not be world class, but they are class.
i found that one of the best features of a tri fin is upwind capability.
true the board in question is long, a tri fin offers , or should a increase in total,fin area, it should equal about 1.33 over an appropriate single.
The board in question is not in the technical NASA category.

xxwindsurfer
9 posts
Thursday , 2 Apr 2020 5:27AM
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How does the position of the centre fin in the fin box- forward or backward impact how the board performs ?

LeeD
1238 posts
Thursday , 2 Apr 2020 5:46AM
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Larger, more area tail fin is what you need.

TrevWello
3 posts
Thursday , 2 Apr 2020 8:20AM
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I managed to obtain on gumtree a "windsurf" shaped fin - more upright (about 17 inch). More area for the 11.6 foot sup I currently sail RATHER than the 12.5 inch "surf fin" I had.
Still have the two side fins as the SUP is tri-fin. The more fins the better - More to push against.
Also Fin placement makes a difference - put the fin as forward as possible. Board heads higher upwind.
Given - here you can not use large sails. Running a 4.8 to 5.2 with this maximum.



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