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hoop
hoop
1979 posts
1979 posts
13 Aug 2005 1:52pm
Anyone tried to get water out of a board using a vacume pump ? How long did it take ,did it work well and how did you go about it? I've got mine on the pump at the moment and not a lot is happening. Perhaps I'm just being impatient.
Ideas anyone ?
mkseven
mkseven
QLD
2315 posts
QLD, 2315 posts
13 Aug 2005 4:30pm
boardlady.com/waterextraction.htm\\

Says there up to months . It used to take a couple of weeks on the spinner from memory.
FilthyAmatuer
FilthyAmatuer
WA
877 posts
WA, 877 posts
13 Aug 2005 2:59pm
I did it... got a resonable amount of water out of the board... but when i cut out the mast track i realised how much was still in there... and there was a lot
leper111
leper111
WA
108 posts
WA, 108 posts
13 Aug 2005 4:23pm
hey,

a mate of mine has had good results with a fish tank pump in the vent plug. You need a hole somewhere else, but usually where the water got in will suffice. Also used damp rid somehow and a hot summer sun.
Not sure exactly what he did, but hopefully he will post (davo where r u?).


Luck,

Simon.
hoop
hoop
1979 posts
1979 posts
13 Aug 2005 6:56pm
Doesn't sound good. Had the board on the pump all day and not a drop.
Might be time to bin it,feels like it's got about 3 litres in it.
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12885 posts
WA, 12885 posts
13 Aug 2005 8:55pm
I've done a few and had reasonable results

So how are you doing it??
do you have an inlet & outlet?
Is the outlet at the board's lowest point??
If not the water can just pool there while the air just goes happily past.
How far is the outlet from where the water got in? If it's having to travel the length of the board might not work to well
snides8
snides8
WA
1731 posts
WA, 1731 posts
14 Aug 2005 9:01am
very difficult to get all the water out, i have used a couple of methods on different boards in the past, all take considerable time.

1. good for summer, stand board on its end 1 hole in bottom and 1 hole in opposite end leave in hot shed and monitor, (this can take for ever)
2. using vac pump (old fridge compressor)- connect to hole in board via a water trap of some type i.e. vegemite jar with tube from board siliconed in to the top and then another tube siliconed in to the top as well but this then connecting to the vac pump. drill hole say 3mm, in opposite end of board to allow air flow through the whole board. monitor jar so it does not overflow (or use bigger jar obviously)
3. the damp rid method was illustrated in a old issue of freesail,i havent used this method but i believe it could be usefull as another option, or used in conjunction with the vac pump method.the idea is to source a tub of damp rid (kmart)and a fish tank pump, and connect the outlet side of the pump to the board i.e silicone the tube in to hole in the board then fix to pump, then connect tube from the suction side of the fish pump into the tub of damp rid(similar to the vege jar method above)then add a hole or tube to the damprid jar somewhere in the bottom of the jar. p.s you will need another hole in the board at the opposite end to allow air(damp rid laced) to travel through the board hopefully drying out as it goes, to escape.the idea is for damprid infused air to flow through the board and exit the other end thus drying the board.

as mentioned i think combining damprid in conjunction with a vac pump may be a better solution. but fingers crossed i will never have to find out!!! and good luck,
(remember if you are pumping air in to a board make sure you have a suitably sized hole some where else other wise you will delaminate the board)
hoop
hoop
1979 posts
1979 posts
14 Aug 2005 9:28am
The water got in through a small crack in the nose.I put the board upside down and pointing downwards at about 45 degrees.I drilled a small hole in the back and a 10mm hole in the front (lowest point)I put the hose in the front with a glass bottle for a reservoir,so the water doesnt go into the pump.It's now been on for over 24 hours and not a drop. The board is still in pretty good condition so any one who wants to have a go at getting the water out can have it. About time I had a new board anyway.

Cheers ,Hoop
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12885 posts
WA, 12885 posts
14 Aug 2005 6:31pm
So how much heavier is it??? Are you sure there's water in there. If there is, using your method you should have seen signs of it by now.

Has anybody done a test on damprid, twith styrene??? so many chemicals dissolve that stuff, I'd be worried about creating a hollow board!!!
FilthyAmatuer
FilthyAmatuer
WA
877 posts
WA, 877 posts
14 Aug 2005 10:58pm
I think it is just a salt... like coppersulfate maybe. The natural crystal it forms has water molecules attached to it, i think 5 water molecules to every molecule of the salt, but there are all sorts of different ones that do this. The powdered salt takes moisture out of the air and forms the crystal, it is just a powder when dry. I know we used to use coppersomething in chemistry to stop moisture getting into stuff. So if it is one of those salts then it shouldnt do anything to the styrene. There are alot of other things that trap water, so it might be something else, but i am guessing that watever it is it would have to be a polar molecule otherwise the water wouldnt be attracted to it.
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12885 posts
WA, 12885 posts
15 Aug 2005 7:22pm
OK a hygroscopic powder, I wasn't thinking of a powder, that would need to be very fine to suck/blow thru a board. If it "clumps" when wet, may just form mud inside the board and not come out????
shmage
shmage
WA
318 posts
WA, 318 posts
15 Aug 2005 8:54pm
I haven't seen dam rid before but im with filth on this (another chem bum at uni). If the air going into the board is dry from going thought some dam rid (or whatever you use) the moisture inside the board should evaporate out easier. Make sure the air is drawn through the daprid otherwise putting damprid in wont do much, and put a sponge at the exit point so none of it gets sucked out and into your board. You should be laughin after all this.

Maby board doctor Dr Bluejuice could give a helping hand with this topic??
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12885 posts
WA, 12885 posts
15 Aug 2005 9:26pm
OK that makes more sense, dry the air before it goes into the board!!!!!
For some reason or another I thought the damp rid was going into the board.
Silly old fart wrong again!
bluejuice
bluejuice
WA
334 posts
WA, 334 posts
16 Aug 2005 9:30am
Hoop already knows what I think
eastie
eastie
WA
43 posts
WA, 43 posts
4 Dec 2005 12:44pm
the llink for the board lady is here....
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