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spyros
spyros
13 posts
13 posts
8 Sep 2011 1:09am
Hi all,

I very confused as to what the differences are between the freeride, freestylewave and crossover boards of the same size .. 100lt p.e. when it comes to handling, handling chop, planing and so on ...

In addition, I have a tabou rocket 125 and I weight 72 kg.

Looking to make a step down and try the 95-100 lt boards. For flat - small chop - big chop, which of the following would behave better for general windsurfing purposes (planing, jybbing and small jumps) ?

Tabou rocket 95 or 105
3S 97
naish allterain 95
RRD freestylewave 95 or 100
JP funride 100

Thanks !
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23685 posts
WA, 23685 posts
8 Sep 2011 8:18am
Freeride is faster and a little harder to gybe that a freestylewave (FSW)
FSW is a little slower but a lot looser and easier to gybe. Freemove is sometimes in the middle but is not as well defined.

Anyway, if you have a 125L freeride and are looking for a step down for stronger winds I would definitely recommend a FSW.

The RRD particularly as they are regarded as doing everything well, and not being too wave oriented or too freeride oriented.

But I notice you said well behaved (handling easy?) but you also seem to imply fast to plane? You can get fast to plane but to have all the other things for bump n jump, like the gybe ability and jumping and handling chop, you are looking at a very different board. What are you priorities?
qldnacra
qldnacra
QLD
455 posts
QLD, 455 posts
8 Sep 2011 11:33am
I would scrap the JP Fun Ride off that list and replace it with a JP All Ride in either 96 or 106. I have a 106 Pro Edition which i stepped onto after my Fun Ride 130 and it is so much better in every way it's not funny. It is very easy to ride, gets on the plane quickly and is quite fast. I also have a 93 litre Single Thruster Pro but have no problem pulling out the All Ride and at times i choose it first. Don't get me wrong the Thruster is awesome but i LOVE the All Ride because it is faster and more relaxing to ride especially when i'm getting a bit tired after 4 or 5 hours on the water. Just a great all round board
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
8349 posts
NSW, 8349 posts
8 Sep 2011 11:37am
spyros said...

Hi all,

I very confused as to what the differences are between the freeride, freestylewave and crossover boards of the same size .. 100lt p.e. when it comes to handling, handling chop, planing and so on ...

In addition, I have a tabou rocket 125 and I weight 72 kg.

Looking to make a step down and try the 95-100 lt boards. For flat - small chop - big chop, which of the following would behave better for general windsurfing purposes (planing, jybbing and small jumps) ?

Tabou rocket 95 or 105
3S 97
naish allterain 95
RRD freestylewave 95 or 100
JP funride 100

Thanks !


I weigh 64kgs and have 125 + 95 ltre Tabou rockets. Mine are 2008 models and I think the newer ones may be a bit smoother in chop. I use the 95 in 18 - 25kts of wind and lake chop ( which can be quite short ). The 95 is +30 of my weight and I cant uphaul it in chop so I tend to go out and use it in more wind than you would if you could uphaul one.I find it a handful in 25kts short chop but I havent been steering a path through the chop .Ill try that next time it blows. It gybes beautifully very easy to turn and good for tight or long gybes. I think with someone a bit more talented than me it would be a good jumping board too. I've heard people say they can get to 30kts but not with me aboard..
Generally I love it and if I was using it in 15- bit < 25kts like most people here I don't think chop would be an issue.
seanhogan
seanhogan
QLD
3424 posts
QLD, 3424 posts
8 Sep 2011 11:42am

The rrd fsw would be the best allrounder for sure, and they look sweeeeet !!!
spyros
spyros
13 posts
13 posts
8 Sep 2011 10:57pm
Yes, I am looking for a friendly board since i ll be jumping from my Tabou rocket 125.

So I want a friendly and a bit forgiving board compared to the others with the same volume and my main target would be to blast from flat to choppy sea water and occasionaly do a littlejump while blasting (no freestyle moves or any kind of serious jumping)...

It seems that I should be looking at the freeride boards of around 100lt volume for my needs...

SO perhaps a JP xcite 100 , tabou rocket 105, naish global freeride 104 ??

Any thoughts / suggestions / comments are MORE than welcome !

Thanks guys

Mark _australia said...



But I notice you said well behaved (handling easy?) but you also seem to imply fast to plane? You can get fast to plane but to have all the other things for bump n jump, like the gybe ability and jumping and handling chop, you are looking at a very different board. What are you priorities?


sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
8349 posts
NSW, 8349 posts
9 Sep 2011 8:44am
www.windsurfingmag.com
Heres a bit of info on the latest Tabou Rocket 105.I know its bigger than what you are after but I imagine its probably similar in the smaller sizes..now all I need to do is win lotto and I can upgrade..
Corkers
Corkers
NSW
154 posts
NSW, 154 posts
9 Sep 2011 9:45am
JP FSW 93..... Or similiar..... Between that and your 125L you will have all conditions covered. With your weight 93 would not be to small. Would depend a little on your sails to.... For blasting a 5.0 to 6.0 would be sweet, i use a 5.3 & 6.6 on my 93L
ikw777
ikw777
QLD
2995 posts
QLD, 2995 posts
9 Sep 2011 9:46am
spyros said...

Yes, I am looking for a friendly board since i ll be jumping from my Tabou rocket 125.

So I want a friendly and a bit forgiving board compared to the others with the same volume and my main target would be to blast from flat to choppy sea water and occasionaly do a littlejump while blasting (no freestyle moves or any kind of serious jumping)...

It seems that I should be looking at the freeride boards of around 100lt volume for my needs...

SO perhaps a JP xcite 100 , tabou rocket 105, naish global freeride 104 ??

Any thoughts / suggestions / comments are MORE than welcome !

Thanks guys


You'd probably be better off with a FSW as suggested above. That sort of general purpose sailing is what they're designed for. Especially as this is appears to be your first move down to this size of board, implying that you are not yet a seasoned sailor.

Freeride boards are designed to perform in flat water mainly, though are more tolerant of chop that slalom/race boards and gybe a bit easier.

An FSW will be more versatile - you'll be able to sail it anywhere, opening more opportunities for you to explore new spots and enjoy sailing with your mates. They will also be more forgiving allowing you to focus more on enjoying your sailing. If you get one with a powerbox you can use a variety of fins, and it will be fast enough to scare you when you want to push it.

Don't let the "freestyle" part of the nomenclature put you off, these boards are not freestyle specialist boards, the companies have dedicated FS boards for that. FSWs are designed for blasting, gybing, and jumping in a variety of conditions - just what you want.
spyros
spyros
13 posts
13 posts
10 Sep 2011 12:08am
Thanks for all the repplies and thoughts.



I have done a little research and leaning towards a FSW board as a more versatile which will probably last me longer.



I have found the foolowing two (2009 models) in very good condition and at the same price.



JP freestyle wave 101 and RRD freestyle wave 100



What do you think about them, what are their differences - planing ability, more forgiving, less sensitive to hard use and so on ?



Thanks
mr love
mr love
VIC
2424 posts
VIC, 2424 posts
10 Sep 2011 8:41am
RRD FSW is one of the easiest and nicest boards I have ever ridden, truly a great all round board.
It has quite a flat rocker in the back half so it planes up easily and is quite fast. Lots of V so it is great in chop, really smoothes the ride out and the thick spongy pads make it very comfortable.
It gybes extremely well and is fairly loose and grippy, but note that it is not a true wave board. These type of boards are about compromise, trying to get an all round performance, so it is not going to be as radical as a wave board in surf or as fast as a slalom board on the flat. However the RRD designers have done a great job balancing this boards performance out.
With a couple of fins you can get fantastic range out of these boards, I have used my 96 with a 4.7 Wave sail and a 7.5 KA Koncept Slalom sail on flat water and it felt comfortable at either end, pretty amazing.
Highly recommended.
seanhogan
seanhogan
QLD
3424 posts
QLD, 3424 posts
10 Sep 2011 8:49am
+1
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23685 posts
WA, 23685 posts
10 Sep 2011 8:30am
+2 on the RRD - brilliant board, they have won so many FSW tests over the years. Love mine, will always have one.

The JP is liked by heaps of ppl too but traditionally it is a little more freeride oriented - just a bit faster than the RRD and not quite as turny.

Really for bay blasting B&J and open ocean etc, unless you are going to ride waves you would be very happy with either.
confused
confused
NSW
175 posts
NSW, 175 posts
10 Sep 2011 10:51am


Just to throw in another option the exocet cross might be worth considering. Its a FSW but leans more to freeride than some of the other FSW boards. For the conditions it sounds like you'll be sailing it it would be a good fit and its incredibly easy to ride.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23685 posts
WA, 23685 posts
10 Sep 2011 7:10pm
^^ I'd the the opposite - the Rocket is his freeride for lighter winds, when it is really starting to blow and looking for a smaller board, I'd go the easy handling of a FSW
ikw777
ikw777
QLD
2995 posts
QLD, 2995 posts
10 Sep 2011 9:32pm
^^^ I can vouch for the Cross's handling. It's a very secure ride in rough/open water. problem might be sizing for him thought at 72kg. Might want the 94l rather than the 104l.

The RRD sounds intriguing though and at exactly 100l sounds like the right size.
paddymac
paddymac
WA
943 posts
WA, 943 posts
10 Sep 2011 9:00pm
Mark _australia said...

+2 on the RRD - brilliant board, they have won so many FSW tests over the years. Love mine, will always have one.

The JP is liked by heaps of ppl too but traditionally it is a little more freeride oriented - just a bit faster than the RRD and not quite as turny.

Really for bay blasting B&J and open ocean etc, unless you are going to ride waves you would be very happy with either.


+3 - I've had both RRD FSW and JP FSW, both good boards but preferred the RRD. You won't go wrong with either.
Waiting4wind
Waiting4wind
NSW
1871 posts
NSW, 1871 posts
11 Sep 2011 9:59am
The other board to consider is the Fanatic Hawk, (say 95) it a nice easy riding free ride and good in B&J. Their FSW's are good too but a little more technical.

I've had a range of JP FSW's, a Tabou Rocket, an RRD FSW and Exocet Cross, all in the mid 90l size. The boards have changed in their ride characteristics over the years so it's hard to generalise. However I'd say that the RRD would be the firendliest ride overall.

For your weight you could consider 85-95L range, most of the above FSW in the 90-95 l range will handle up to a 6.5m sail. With your weight in bumpy water and a 100L, you may struggle with 5.5m down.
DrJ
DrJ
ACT
481 posts
DrJ DrJ
ACT, 481 posts
11 Sep 2011 1:14pm
Just bought a new all ride looks great, but sad today it's not been wet yet
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