Windsurfing study evolution

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greenleader
greenleader
QLD
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QLD, 5283 posts
12 Sep 2007 11:35pm
witnessing freestyle windsurfing is attractive to any one with an eye.

the latest stuff is explosive.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23685 posts
WA, 23685 posts
12 Sep 2007 9:39pm
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Originally posted by 555

There's a project happening over here at the moment to build a jump ramp like they use for the indoor PWA events, and recently in the european lakes.

The goals, aside from obviously just getting huge air on flat water, are to bring the aerial side of the sport to more accessible locations where there aren't naturally occuring 'ramps'.



Hell yeah!!! needs to be somewhere that the sailor's reach is sorta along the shore...onshore winds... else the ramp would need to be 100m offshore. they'll build up speed well in view of spectators and jump really close to shore. C'mon Perth guys we neeeed one!!! Peli Pt is my pick (yes I know I broke the onshore rule but with the sandbank there and the channel in the middle the ramp could be right on the edge so the landing is in deep water.
Richiefish
Richiefish
QLD
5612 posts
QLD, 5612 posts
13 Sep 2007 8:50am
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Originally posted by Chris 249

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Originally posted by laff77

Its different horses for different courses. I compare windsurfing and kiting to skiing and snowboarding. Kiting and snowboarding are both much easier to pick up the basics and get going at a decent level compared with windsurfing which can take seasons to get really good at!

We need events like Carbo Verde '07 publicised to the masses in greater volume to show people how the sport has evolved and how exciting it can be. The thing I notice the most is when you tell a non-water person that I windsurf, the first thing they say is "oh is that the kite thing?" When you say no, they say oh yeah I remember trying that years ago and kept falling off. Its then very difficult to change people's perception that the sport has evolved and board design has gotten to the point where a complete novice can be cruising about in half an hour.

Am going to get my girlfriend into the sport this summer and have kept my GO board for this sole purpose. I have warned her, not to expect great things too early and that she really has to WANT to windsurf to get good at it. I would love to get more people into this sport. Its more than just getting out lots, its that passion that only windsurfers understand. How do we bottle it and market it?



I don't think we can sell the radical stuff to the masses. The sport has been trying to do that for over 20 years now. They used to get 250,000 LIVE spectators to the Dutch round of the World Cup, so truckloads (okay, more than truckloads) of people have seen all that stuff - but they no longer windsurf. We used to get televised contests in Sydney - but now the sport here is a tiny fraction of what it used to be.

Maybe, after 20+ years of trying to push the radical angle, we can admit it's not working?
After all, what similar sports are there that are really popular? Mountain biking and surfing are designed more about "real world" conditions. In sailing, only a small (or tiny) minority do the spectacular stuff. The fact is that the activities that people actually do are pretty laid back or conventional things, like cricket, walking, bushwalking and fishing.....or look at kayaking, which is a boom sport around the world.

Australia's top survey of sports participation, publicity nad sponsorship has said it loud, clear and simple - there is no decent relationship between the publicity a sport gets, and the participants it gets. It may seem strange, but it's a fact.

The undeniable fact is that windusrfing was huge when it was about less demanding sailing - it was about sailing in light winds, which people can actually DO without spending those years of learning you write about.

The sports that are doing well are generally making it EASIER for people to reach a decent standard - windsurfing is making it harder. I sail boats as well as boards. If you told people that they couldn't "really" sail until they'd done an ocean race or sailed an 18 Foot Skiff, they'd drop out of teh sport - yet we do something similar by saying that you're not "really" windsurfing unless you're on a shortboard in a planing breeze. Sure, let's hope they get there - but putting the bar too high just puts people off.

By the way, we have taught dozens of people on old longboards. Put a decent little rig on them, and they do a great job. They have less lateral stability, but staying upwind is much less of a problem and in the ligth winds beginners like, the longboard is actually fast enough to give them some sensation.

So why tell your girlfriend that she has to put years into it to become a windsurfer - why not tell her that as soon as she can get the board moving and have fun, she is a windsurfer - because that is the truth.

Richiefish
Richiefish
QLD
5612 posts
QLD, 5612 posts
13 Sep 2007 8:54am
whoops ,that last bit was supposed to be part of this bit..Yes i can see your point.The first thrill I had windsurfing was when the thing moved forward. that was on a 40 dollar rig( big wally type thing and non battened sail tie on boom.)
Arnold
Arnold
46 posts
46 posts
13 Sep 2007 10:30am
"Light wind" sailing seems to be all about planing in lightwind, i.e. even more expensive, big, technical, light weight gear.

Starboards Serenity is a non-planning hull but it is a pretty specialist bit of kit.

The Kona board seems cool,and a step in the right direction.
P.C_simpson
P.C_simpson
WA
1492 posts
WA, 1492 posts
13 Sep 2007 12:47pm
Surfing is still around even after bodyboarding got real popular, skateboarding is still going strong even though rollerblades where introduced, go to europe, windsurfers out number kites 10 to 1,where i live we have more windsurfers under the age of 20 than kitesurfers, the rising popularity could be to people still being at the beach when there are kites out, how many non sailors are on the beach when it's 20+ knots when windsurfing starts to really look good, some good media is what is needed to get people into our sport.
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