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zippyblue
zippyblue
NSW
111 posts
NSW, 111 posts
2 Mar 2010 10:36pm
I've been able to plane in harness for a while, but only in footstraps as of last weekend...dunno but I always thought this would end in teers (broken ankle) but how wrong I was..feels sooo much more secure, and a major step forwards! Quite easily managed my (little) 6.7m in 20+ knts (gusting 30?) on Monday in the rainstorm squalls out on Narrabeen. Without footstraps I know this would have been out of control. I'm still buzzing at this revelation!!

Anyhow my question...when really gunning it, what's the best way to change direction quick, like if I want to avoid something (or somebody) and I want to stop or make a radical change of direction NOW!

Sheeting out didn't really seem to help much, only a gradual slowdown and continued planing for a quite a way. Dont seem to have as much control moving the boom back/forward at this speed either (?)

I figured out about loading up the rails to change direction, and this worked pretty well when I was out on Monday....so great now I can also steer with my feet :)

But "turning on a dime" .... do I just need to be more forceful with loading up the rails? I did try this to turn upwind to kill some speed, but ended up picking up even more, briefly. Until I spun out on my back, under the sail, which must have looked really dumb and certainly felt it.

Power is nothing without control.... so any tips much appreciated!

Eagerly awaiting next rainstorm and day off work :)
NotWal
NotWal
QLD
7436 posts
QLD, 7436 posts
2 Mar 2010 10:04pm
If I was about to run into a swimmer I think I would let go the back hand and carve upwind off the back foot as hard as I could then fall in a heap. For anything else I'd try to foot steer around it.
It just occurs to me that a catapult stops the board dead in its tracks so maybe a trip around the front would be in order. Not sure.
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
2 Mar 2010 11:11pm
Your question is how to change direction when on the plane? If so foot pressure along with sail trim, sheeting in and out, is the way to go. If you really need to make a radical change in direction then again foot pressure, ie railing the board upwind or downwind is the go. If you can keep the speed up when pushing down the leeward rail then you can do a gybe on the plane.

To turn on a dime in my experience is pretty easy. Just dump your weight on the tail and sheet in, the board will spin upwind. If you are really worried about losing control and killing someone then don't. If worse comes to worse you can always sheet out and bail out on the windward side. Even if you are hooked in, just fall in on the windward side; if you can't get out then expect to be catapulted at the worst.

Using a 6.7 in 30 knots is really difficult. I know the winds in Narrabeen Lake, ie one minute 2 knots the next second 25 knots and blowing from a difference of 25 degrees, especially on a southerly.

Bristol
Bristol
ACT
347 posts
ACT, 347 posts
2 Mar 2010 11:27pm
Yes, as Moby and Notwal say, heaps and heaps of pressure on the upwind rail, and particularly through your back foot, as if you're trying to do a radical tack. Points the nose of the board into the wind; stops you really quickly.

Gybing, on the other hand, will probably accelerate you, which is generally not what you'd want in this circumstance.

Good luck.
zippyblue
zippyblue
NSW
111 posts
NSW, 111 posts
2 Mar 2010 11:43pm
Thanks, yeah question is more one of how to avoid killing somebody :) don't mind too much hurting myself but other people different matter! like if somebody crashes out in front of me on a busy day...I'll try your hints next time I'm out, with only ducks for company. thanks.

Gusty conditions are good for reaction times if nothing else :)
Weather was pretty random on Monday all around N.beaches...supposed to be 20kt but at times was hardly blowing, and then up again like crazy.
nosinkanow
nosinkanow
NSW
441 posts
NSW, 441 posts
3 Mar 2010 3:10am
Many years I ago I hit a swimmer with my f'glass waveboard who was outside the flagged area of my then local beach. I was heading back to the beach behind the shorebreak and I was planing. It was like George St. that day with around 25 boards out, we were quite a distance from the flagged area, 18+ knots and around a 3-4 foot wave face and lots of whitewater and the sun was beaming. It was a really good summer sailing arvo. There normally isn't any swimmers outside the flags when we're out in those days, coz it would have been lunacy and akin to stepping blindfolded on to an expressway, most people have some sense and stay away.

Anyway, I was not expecting this, all I saw was this slim, grey receding hair, 60+ year old guy pop up out of the whitewater around tummy deep, remove water from his face with his hands and I'm around 2 metres away! Bang! The fear in his eyes when he put his hands down as he saw me coming still haunts me!

What saved his and my arse was I let myself fall backwards into the water as a brake, just as Mobydisc suggested, all I could think of was stop the board going forward! I didn't think of turning, not in that short space. I also hung onto the boom to make sure the rig stayed with me. It was enough to slow my board's momentum to hit him on the chest with a thud. It could have been much much worse if I hit him at full planing speed! Luckily my board was made at a time when a new movement saw surfboards, slalom and wave boards were designed with a blunt nose. If it had a pointy nose like my previous board I reckon he would have been badly injured or dead.

I felt like a karnt coz I thought I killed him. When I quickly came up from under my sail he looked at me in shock holding his chest. I thought he was going to have a heart attack as his eyes were just rolling around his head! I apologised profusely, he said nothing and went and sat on his towel on the sand. I think he was in shock. I went up to him, apologised again and asked him if I could take him to the surf club to be checked out. He said he was OK. In hindsight I should have got a clubby to come down to check him out. It worked out that he was OK...dunno about later though.

Anyway that put a damper on my arvo. I have a lot of respect for swimmers and they always have right of way, all it takes is one unfortunate occassion and you could have a disaster.
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