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HAIL
HAIL
SA
1160 posts
SA, 1160 posts
4 May 2010 6:44pm
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190391024053

this is my old sail that TNT "lost" in transit. VERY funny how this guy has come accross it. beware it is not new. would love to know were this guy got it from! doesnt look like a windsurfer!??
DunkO
DunkO
NSW
1150 posts
NSW, 1150 posts
4 May 2010 8:23pm
Question

if it's new why does it have a JP sticker on the mono?

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Hi,
Sorry mate this was sold as a new sale and I assumed it was new.
This is not my area and did not notice it as being a used sail.

I guess he not a windsurfer
sailpilot
sailpilot
QLD
787 posts
QLD, 787 posts
4 May 2010 9:41pm
I hope your sending some notice to Ebay and also TNT, as this sort of thing really sucks. Maybe print off some web pages before its sold as proof.
Little Jon
Little Jon
NSW
2115 posts
NSW, 2115 posts
4 May 2010 9:41pm
Suggest you put in a winning bid to halt the auction or contact ebay. If it is stolen then it still belongs to you. They can't sell what they don't own.
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14968 posts
QLD, 14968 posts
4 May 2010 9:51pm
give the police a call also.
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
4 May 2010 10:03pm
Bidding has ended. Has something happened? Call the police if you have proof of purchase. This sort of thing is fraud.

keef
keef
NSW
2016 posts
NSW, 2016 posts
4 May 2010 10:14pm
i would contact ebay and tell them the story , ask for the item to be suspended untill the problem is resolved,if the guy has enough balls too admit that it's not his sail & TNT will cop the freight, i feel for you my friend and i hope you get your sail back
HAIL
HAIL
SA
1160 posts
SA, 1160 posts
4 May 2010 10:02pm
TNT in the end actually refunded me $350 bucks which was apparently the market value?? but would still like to know how some joe blogs gets my sail from "lost property"at TNT. then goes and sells it a brand new! and makes 400 bucks!?? just hope the poor sucker that brought it is not dissapointed when he gets a 18 month used sail! just goes to show that there are some people out there who dont give a FARK! lesson to everyone. GET you postage insured!
Bondalucci
Bondalucci
VIC
1580 posts
VIC, 1580 posts
4 May 2010 11:24pm
I had my Van stolen in 2005, with all my windsurfing gear in it. The Van was covered by insurance, and I was able to get a better one with the payout.

4 years later, almost to the day, I spotted the windsurfing gear on ebay.

The ad was a beautie.... "mistral 2 concept" (it was a flow 266) "......comes with 2 sets of poles" ( 4 masts ) etc.

I alerted the police (one of them was a windsurfing mate), showed them detailed descriptions of the items which checked out with the list of stolen items I'd listed with them back in 2005. They went and recovered the gear for me.

Thanks to the boys in blue!! (only cost me a slab of Crownies!!)
kato
kato
VIC
3531 posts
VIC, 3531 posts
4 May 2010 11:54pm
Bondalucci said...

I had my Van stolen in 2005, with all my windsurfing gear in it. The Van was covered by insurance, and I was able to get a better one with the payout.

4 years later, almost to the day, I spotted the windsurfing gear on ebay.

The ad was a beautie.... "mistral 2 concept" (it was a flow 266) "......comes with 2 sets of poles" ( 4 masts ) etc.

I alerted the police (one of them was a windsurfing mate), showed them detailed descriptions of the items which checked out with the list of stolen items I'd listed with them back in 2005. They went and recovered the gear for me.

Thanks to the boys in blue!! (only cost me a slab of Crownies!!)


Had a similar problem but pre interweb. Gear stolen and then advertised in the Trading Post 4 mths latter. Just went round with a large mate and some photos and asked nicely for my gear back. Don,t every buy "Hot" gear no matter how good the price.

ozpricey
ozpricey
WA
333 posts
WA, 333 posts
4 May 2010 10:27pm
kato said...

Bondalucci said...

I had my Van stolen in 2005, with all my windsurfing gear in it. The Van was covered by insurance, and I was able to get a better one with the payout.

4 years later, almost to the day, I spotted the windsurfing gear on ebay.

The ad was a beautie.... "mistral 2 concept" (it was a flow 266) "......comes with 2 sets of poles" ( 4 masts ) etc.

I alerted the police (one of them was a windsurfing mate), showed them detailed descriptions of the items which checked out with the list of stolen items I'd listed with them back in 2005. They went and recovered the gear for me.

Thanks to the boys in blue!! (only cost me a slab of Crownies!!)


Had a similar problem but pre interweb. Gear stolen and then advertised in the Trading Post 4 mths latter. Just went round with a large mate and some photos and asked nicely for my gear back. Don,t every buy "Hot" gear no matter how good the price.




What if it was the 2nd owner since the gear was stolen? Ie you were asking your gear back to someone who unknowingly bought it already for a decent sum of cash?
DunkO
DunkO
NSW
1150 posts
NSW, 1150 posts
5 May 2010 10:09am
ozpricey said...

kato said...

Bondalucci said...

I had my Van stolen in 2005, with all my windsurfing gear in it. The Van was covered by insurance, and I was able to get a better one with the payout.

4 years later, almost to the day, I spotted the windsurfing gear on ebay.

The ad was a beautie.... "mistral 2 concept" (it was a flow 266) "......comes with 2 sets of poles" ( 4 masts ) etc.

I alerted the police (one of them was a windsurfing mate), showed them detailed descriptions of the items which checked out with the list of stolen items I'd listed with them back in 2005. They went and recovered the gear for me.

Thanks to the boys in blue!! (only cost me a slab of Crownies!!)


Had a similar problem but pre interweb. Gear stolen and then advertised in the Trading Post 4 mths latter. Just went round with a large mate and some photos and asked nicely for my gear back. Don,t every buy "Hot" gear no matter how good the price.




What if it was the 2nd owner since the gear was stolen? Ie you were asking your gear back to someone who unknowingly bought it already for a decent sum of cash?


then its time to head to the police station. good to keep the contact details of where you purchase second hand goods from in case. with windsurfing its fairly easy to tell who is legit.
SundayRoast
SundayRoast
NSW
17 posts
NSW, 17 posts
5 May 2010 11:23am
I was the winning bider on E-bay !!
I've noticed this thread after the guy just phoned me up. He told me he had been contacted by the owner who had informed him that the sail is not new. He bought the sail at an auction where TNT clear out lost stuff. He seemed like a pretty like a pretty honest bloke with little to hide. His opinion is since Hail received a pay out for the sail and he bought it legit, it is his to sell, which i think i agree with (allthough 350 seems a bit low, but thats hails beef with TNT i would say).

Ok so he apologised for misleading me (which may have been a genuine mistake) , and offered me the sail for what he payed, which i thought seemed ok. Only problem is since he's not a windsurfer its a bit hard to get him to discribe the condition to me. Hope this is not to cheaky Hail but what condition was that sail in ??!!

What does anyone else think of this situation, thoughts welcome ...
DunkO
DunkO
NSW
1150 posts
NSW, 1150 posts
5 May 2010 2:42pm
What did he pay for the sail? and where are these TNT auctions held, could be worth a look, if its worth someone going to buy an item they know nothing about only to go try and sell it for more $ on eBay.

If TNT auctioned a "lost" items then received more for it than they paid to the TNT customer that could a bit of an issue.

easty
easty
TAS
2213 posts
TAS, 2213 posts
5 May 2010 3:05pm
How do TNT "lose" things? For a start you can only use them if you have an account set up (or used to be the case). They have a fairly foolproof system of consignment notes in quadruplicate, it would all be computerised, it seems strange that an item couldn't be correlated with either the sender or consignee and designated "lost".
HAIL
HAIL
SA
1160 posts
SA, 1160 posts
5 May 2010 6:45pm
hey mate

i would say sail is in fairly good nic when i last seen it!! still i believe 480 bucks is a bit deer since i sold most my 09 sails for around 400 mark over 6 months ago. to be honest got no idea how the hell tnt can loose the sail. it was wrapped in cardboard with there address label attached in duct tape!!! with my mobile number plastered all over it!! some guy in a ware house rang me and i got thrown around for about 3 weeks until they claimed it had officially been lost. it was sooo much of a hasstle. i cant believe tnt sell there lost items! how dodge is that!!! all they needed to do was ring the shop which the price tag was still on and they could have sorted it out! crazy! any way hope your happy with it. how much did he pay at the "auction"?????
SundayRoast
SundayRoast
NSW
17 posts
NSW, 17 posts
5 May 2010 7:23pm
I don't know anything about TNT, but nothing in life is foolproof, some stuff must get lost now and again.

Dont worry dunko what he told me he paid for it is less than what Hail recieved from TNT, so no profiting from lost items there, aparentlly !!

I think I might ask this guy if he has a reciept, or can at lest tell me what auction it came from, but if he passes these tests got to assume everything is legit!!

If this is the case it would be really good to know what sort of condition that sail is in !!!!!

If not .......
HAIL
HAIL
SA
1160 posts
SA, 1160 posts
5 May 2010 7:02pm
sail was used for once summer season. nothing wrong exept for a few tiny weeny kinks in mono. but you get them as soon as you unroll a bloody brand new sail! no holes scratches tears nothing. better then most demo sails. that was its condition around october i imagine??? hope TNT didnt fark a perfectly good sail!
DunkO
DunkO
NSW
1150 posts
NSW, 1150 posts
5 May 2010 7:33pm
i would have bidded myself on it but i have the exact same sail and love it, it got a workout in this arvos westerly.
SundayRoast
SundayRoast
NSW
17 posts
NSW, 17 posts
5 May 2010 7:42pm
Hey Cheers for that Hail

Ignore my last message we must of have been writing at the same time, hadnt seen your replly sorry mate.

Still negotiating with him so I'll tell you what he paid for it when Ive finalised a deal with him

Cheers again for info very helfull
HAIL
HAIL
SA
1160 posts
SA, 1160 posts
5 May 2010 7:17pm
no worries! lucky the windsurfing family isnt massive!!
Krisiz1
Krisiz1
WA
331 posts
WA, 331 posts
6 May 2010 10:36pm
SundayRoast said...

I was the winning bider on E-bay !!
I've noticed this thread after the guy just phoned me up. He told me he had been contacted by the owner who had informed him that the sail is not new. He bought the sail at an auction where TNT clear out lost stuff. He seemed like a pretty like a pretty honest bloke with little to hide. His opinion is since Hail received a pay out for the sail and he bought it legit, it is his to sell, which i think i agree with (allthough 350 seems a bit low, but thats hails beef with TNT i would say).

Ok so he apologised for misleading me (which may have been a genuine mistake) , and offered me the sail for what he payed, which i thought seemed ok. Only problem is since he's not a windsurfer its a bit hard to get him to discribe the condition to me. Hope this is not to cheaky Hail but what condition was that sail in ??!!

What does anyone else think of this situation, thoughts welcome ...


So why would a guy who knows nothing about windsurfing, BUY a sail, on it's own, (be different if it was a complete set-up) in an auction??? That would be like me buying a racing car gearbox! It's no good to me, I dont know what to do with it, and most importantly, wouldn't know if theres even a market for it! Sounds dodge to me [}:)]
MikeyS
MikeyS
VIC
1509 posts
VIC, 1509 posts
7 May 2010 3:15pm
Krisiz1 said...

So why would a guy who knows nothing about windsurfing, BUY a sail, on it's own, (be different if it was a complete set-up) in an auction??? That would be like me buying a racing car gearbox! It's no good to me, I dont know what to do with it, and most importantly, wouldn't know if theres even a market for it! Sounds dodge to me [}:)]


Two words --- JOUSTING STICKS. And in case you don't get the reference, another two words --- THE CASTLE. And if you still don't get what I mean, hire the movie and I think you'll understand.

People will buy and sell anything if they think they can make a buck out of it.
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