good alround wave board

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jord070
jord070
WA
1109 posts
WA, 1109 posts
30 Aug 2007 7:18pm
so i have been thinking about what size wave board i should get for my main alrounder, i was thinking 75 because i still got a big of growing but i wanna just get a few opinions. my current boards are

69 quatro wave
85 starbaord fish
100 JP FSW
110 starboard carve
180 starbaord GO

my 85 gets barley no use out of it, because i dont really like that style board, and i would prefer to go on the fsw or the quatro and stuggle and have a short sail. so what im thinking is getting rid of the FISH for a throw away price, and get a 75. but looking at posts im not so sure this woudl be the best volume to go for.
any hints would be great,

the top wieght i should hit is around 80 kg, so keep that in mind, because i want it to last me a little while, maby 2 seasons
Bender
Bender
WA
2236 posts
WA, 2236 posts
30 Aug 2007 8:16pm
Why do do you want an alround wave board when you have boards already that can cover just about all the wave conditions you will get?????
jord070
jord070
WA
1109 posts
WA, 1109 posts
30 Aug 2007 8:23pm
because soon i want to go traveling around WA for weekend trips and things, and i have to many things to take. so if i can get a pretty good board, that will let me use it when im underpowerd but also be a good volume for over powerd, it will make my travel alot easier. also, i share these boards with me bad, the fish and the quatro, or both mine, and all the rest i share, after giving the carve to him. so usaly 2 of them are out on the water, FSW and the fish, and or the fish and the quatro, so its not that much of a range when it comes down to it
Bender
Bender
WA
2236 posts
WA, 2236 posts
30 Aug 2007 8:31pm
I would recomned a Starboard Kombat85 being a Starboard fan as it can be set up for flat water(4 straps-outboard) or wave (3 straps-inboard).

I have the 95 and it is great with an upright fin/4 straps for blasting or set up for waves/3 straps and wave fin

FSW 85 perhaps.

Cheers Bender
JESUS
JESUS
WA
150 posts
WA, 150 posts
30 Aug 2007 8:41pm
For where your at on the learning curve it doesn't matter that much. Get an FSW 85L orientated board that has unreal graphics that you will love looking at for the next 2 years. Stick a real small fin in it for the windy days and a large fin in it for the lighter crap days, make sure the fins look good and match the board. Sail Duthies for the 1st year, then Scarborough the next year, Scarborough will punish your board but that wont matter cause youll be selling it and your skill level will have skyrocketed.
bubs
bubs
SA
924 posts
SA, 924 posts
30 Aug 2007 10:15pm
quote:
Originally posted by Bender
I would recomned a Starboard Kombat85



Oh thats good. I just bought one of them. A 2005 model. Itching to take it out on the water except two problems. Not enough wind this weekend, and i just injured my knee playing footy with my mates at school and can barely walk let alone windsurf. Hopefully i recover quickly. I've done it badly 5 times in a year.

Bubs
shmage
shmage
WA
318 posts
WA, 318 posts
30 Aug 2007 8:51pm
At your weight (70kg?) the 69 should be fine. Im 73kg and use a 68L quatro as my only board. You get used to sailing small boards in waves, i cant go back to a large board now. Ok so sometimes i would like to have a bigger board, but its not that often. Just go sailing and you will love what you have, not love what you want.

On a side note once you leave school and become a poor student like me you dont want to lug around crap loads of gear..... think of the fuel!!!!!
jord070
jord070
WA
1109 posts
WA, 1109 posts
30 Aug 2007 9:03pm
should just cut up my fish, make it narower, make some nice sharp rails, and give that a shot., but sofar i got 85 85 and 69, so its looking like the middle option is a 75.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23695 posts
WA, 23695 posts
30 Aug 2007 9:08pm
Yeah but what do you want Jordo? A wave board or a Perth waveboard? Your Quatro is a sick DTL waveboard, but what will you use a 75 for? If it is Gnaraloo then get a Quatro slash n burn 75, Acid 77ish or similar.
If it will be mostly Perth and Corro's... and maybe a little bit of bigwave DTL stuff for 1 week a year, then a FSW (which is a bit looser than most FSW's) may be a good choice.

Reason I say that is a 75l "real" waveboard will feel so close to your 68 that it is pointless. BUT a 75L flatter rockered board like a FSW will feel a lot bigger (plane earlier).

I have not ridden them but I'm not convinced about the Kombat: changing strap pozzies and fin only changes the handling a bit: it does not add rocker!! I doubt a Kombat or most FSW's would handle Gnaraloo without a lot of practice and it would be hard to tighten up a bottom turn to get you into the pocket. It will ride waves but it is not a waveboard. Kombat is a turny freeride. You need a turny FSW I suspect..... and there is a big difference.

My 20c FWIW: you need a EVO 75 (or similar RWW or pocketwave etc). That will be your Perth wave board where your fun is predominantly jumping (but it will still ride waves well) and it will get you over the whitewater on onshore winter days when it is gusty 18-30 etc. Then your Quatro is you 'good day' board for summer constant 25kn and nice waves.
Leech
Leech
WA
1933 posts
WA, 1933 posts
30 Aug 2007 9:17pm
Bender, how's the Kombat in the waves?
Al McLeod
Al McLeod
VIC
633 posts
VIC, 633 posts
30 Aug 2007 11:18pm
the new ones are meant to be pretty rad in the waves. check out the starboard site.
Davo87
Davo87
WA
139 posts
WA, 139 posts
30 Aug 2007 9:24pm
I've been in a similar position to you over last couple of years. I've gone from 70 to 80kg and changed boards from 63 and 69 litre quatros to 75 litre fanatic goya.

I mostly agree with mark but i can definetly feel the volume difference between the 69 and 75. The 75 is now the only board i sail and makes getting out in the light stuff easier. Saying that, i wouldnt buy a 75 to compliment a 69. I think you should just try a few 75's and find one you really like and then get rid off the 69 and 85. With the money you save you can go on holiday over summer to a place where its always windy!
jord070
jord070
WA
1109 posts
WA, 1109 posts
30 Aug 2007 9:31pm
one place i think i would like to be getting down to alot, is lano, over the holidays, that way its close, its windy, and get some pretty nice swell, bothing like gnarloo, but better than perth. but i like what your saying mark, and i like the idea of getting a RWW.
X-man
X-man
WA
325 posts
WA, 325 posts
30 Aug 2007 11:46pm
Dude indentify shapes that work for you, if you're out one day and theres lots of people with boards you might be interested in, ask them if you can try them for a little ride, or find a couple of demo boards..
The fish is slow and kinda heavy, but some people like them. If u dont like it and like your quatro, get a similar or slightly wider shape. Take something between 75 and 85.. barely 80 should be nice, go to the shop and ask how the boards are. For example I bought an rrd waveone at 2nd wind and there was a JP of the same volume so they gave me some good comparison between the 2, makes your choice a lot easier!
Above 80ish gets a bit too big in strong winds, but ~75 has lots of range, for sails and for control.
Hope that helps
Bender
Bender
WA
2236 posts
WA, 2236 posts
31 Aug 2007 12:35am
The kombat(mines a 95) IMO is fine for 90% of the waves you get most of the time. I live in Bunbury where the wind is light so a big wave board is needed. It is my only wave board now as i have invested in speed/slalom gear(gps is addictive).

Anyway to my point. The kombats have plenty of rocker and are very loose with a decent wave fin.I have sailed mine at Pt Moore, Corro's and lanclin to name a few. So unless you are sailing perfect DTL waves Kombats have enough performance to satisfy the average to advanced sailor.
I am no Robby but i have hit lips and laid down nice carves mid face with the kombat no worries in upto logo high.

so IMHO i hink they are a great alrounder with a slight bias to waves.

Can anyone else add their thoughs that have actually sailed one?





I used to ride a small Trad style delta and it was great in perfect waves but for everything else the akombat wins every time.
Bender
Bender
WA
2236 posts
WA, 2236 posts
31 Aug 2007 12:44am

I have not ridden them but I'm not convinced about the Kombat: changing strap pozzies and fin only changes the handling a bit: it does not add rocker!! I doubt a Kombat or most FSW's would handle Gnaraloo without a lot of practice and it would be hard to tighten

Mark i beg to differ. On my Kombat if i put the straps (4) out and back with a upright fin 30cm the board changes feel completely. All of a sudden it will power off the fin and get up and boogie. it has clocked a 27knt NM.

so then if you move the straps inward with one back strap and put a decent 22-24cm wave fin you can pull tight bottom turns hit the lip. i know this first hand.
Arlo
Arlo
SA
139 posts
SA, 139 posts
31 Aug 2007 11:58am
Bender,

How tubby are you ? And what sail range can you get away with on your 95 Kombat (2007?) ?

I am 85kg(ish) and want to use one as my main board, just getting into bump'n'jump and would like to give waves a go some time soon. I may have to go for a year or 2 old model rather than new and don't know whether they have drastically changed in versatility since then.
Bender
Bender
WA
2236 posts
WA, 2236 posts
31 Aug 2007 10:54am
I am 83kgs my Kombat is 2005 95L. I use 4.7m, 5.3m and 5.7m wave sails with it and on flat water i have used 5.2m and 6.4m speed sails with it.

Cheers
Arlo
Arlo
SA
139 posts
SA, 139 posts
31 Aug 2007 12:55pm
quote:
Originally posted by Bender

I am 83kgs my Kombat is 2005 95L. I use 4.7m, 5.3m and 5.7m wave sails with it and on flat water i have used 5.2m and 6.4m speed sails with it.



Cheers; sounds ideal!
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