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HAIL
HAIL
SA
1160 posts
SA, 1160 posts
8 Jul 2007 12:18pm
went out on saturday. snapped my JP in half. so sad. now broke again! if i really like JP'S wat other boards would be suitable for me? my old board was a freestyle wave 84ltrs. any advice??
jord070
jord070
WA
1109 posts
WA, 1109 posts
8 Jul 2007 11:37am
go for any goya or quatro board. they are the best, i have just recently got my self a 69leater wave, and it is the best board i own, they are so strong, but so light at the same time, and because they are still a small brand compared to jp australia they are checked so much more thourally for faults, i have a jp 90 ltr freestyle, and it is constantly getting repaired, it has also almost been snapped in half and needed repairs, i wouldn't ever go for jp again. but if you wanna stick with jp go for the real world 84 ltr board. it isnt got as much nose as the free wave, but its still meant to be extreamly good, i have seen quite a few out, and they look like they are controllable, but can still take a thrashing.
hope this helps
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23695 posts
WA, 23695 posts
8 Jul 2007 11:48am
Agree....... and disagree. JP are reputed to be fragile, but apparently improved a lot about 2005 models onwards.
Jordo, unless you have a full custom Quatro it is made in the Cobra factory same as the JP, same quality control etc, just they specify a more expensive construction.

I do agree stay away from JP, and that Quatro / Goya are good choice. If you like a FSW the RRD is reputed to be very good (shape wise I mean) ....... and they are top line construction. I've seen a few buggered JP's but don't recall a snapped RRD.
Others to stay away from are F2, Fanatic.
jord070
jord070
WA
1109 posts
WA, 1109 posts
8 Jul 2007 11:52am
mark, wouldn't you agree, that because they are not so mass produced and specified around the nicer materials and have a reputation for being good strong boards. they would check thier boards for more things, and not send out faulty ones. or atleast repair them.
jord070
jord070
WA
1109 posts
WA, 1109 posts
8 Jul 2007 11:58am
can i ask wot you did to snap it??
HAIL
HAIL
SA
1160 posts
SA, 1160 posts
8 Jul 2007 1:36pm
it was an 03 model i think. just got an air only prob like 1 metre landed and just simply heard a crack. looked down and it was buggered! managed to still sail in. u should try sailing with a "wobbly" board that bends over waves! wierd as feeling
HAIL
HAIL
SA
1160 posts
SA, 1160 posts
8 Jul 2007 1:39pm
quote:
Originally posted by Mark _australia

Agree....... and disagree. JP are reputed to be fragile, but apparently improved a lot about 2005 models onwards.
Jordo, unless you have a full custom Quatro it is made in the Cobra factory same as the JP, same quality control etc, just they specify a more expensive construction.

I do agree stay away from JP, and that Quatro / Goya are good choice. If you like a FSW the RRD is reputed to be very good (shape wise I mean) ....... and they are top line construction. I've seen a few buggered JP's but don't recall a snapped RRD.
Others to stay away from are F2, Fanatic.


what is wrong with fanatic? i thought these boards were getting pretty good feed back? does any one know about the price difference between brands?
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23695 posts
WA, 23695 posts
8 Jul 2007 12:47pm
quote:
Originally posted by jord070

mark, wouldn't you agree, that because they are not so mass produced and specified around the nicer materials and have a reputation for being good strong boards. they would check thier boards for more things, and not send out faulty ones. or atleast repair them.



Well they are still mass produced, as in the Cobra production line style, just less of them. I dunno but I'd guess at same Q.C as they are all just inspected at each stage same as every Cobra board. However, when they specify a stronger and lighter construction than some other boards, maybe they also specify more Q.C steps eg: checking wetting out of cloth properly as some other brands seem not to!!
CJW
CJW
NSW
1731 posts
CJW CJW
NSW, 1731 posts
8 Jul 2007 5:23pm
I've got an RRD, best built, lighest wave board i've owned...bomb proof :D The fanatics are also up there.

Whilst they are all (almost all) made in the cobra factory the material and layup specification varies massively between brands. JP imo cut corners (or have a crap layup design), not too impressed with my *board either.
DL
DL
WA
659 posts
DL DL
WA, 659 posts
8 Jul 2007 4:08pm
quote:
Originally posted by jord070

... 69leater wave...



I feel physically pained reading that. Please spell it "litre" in the future
easty
easty
TAS
2213 posts
TAS, 2213 posts
8 Jul 2007 7:58pm
1: Have recently got a Starboard Kombat 79L - 07 model, and to be honest have only sailed it once but it was the duck's nuts.
2: My previous board, which I still have and will definately keep, is a Fanatic Cross 90 '02 model, and it's taken a fair bit of abuse but still good for quite a few years. (especially as I'll be mainly sailing the new board).
Juice
Juice
WA
280 posts
WA, 280 posts
8 Jul 2007 6:41pm
quote:

wetting out of cloth properly as some other brands seem not to!!



Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23695 posts
WA, 23695 posts
8 Jul 2007 8:17pm
Glad u agree.

I can't believe they don't see it, anyone who has laid up glass will know how bloody obvious it is!!! Then the board snaps 3 yrs later, no warranty BUT it should be covered I reckon
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12885 posts
WA, 12885 posts
8 Jul 2007 8:28pm
Do you reckon it's resin infusion gone wrong, or just lazy hand layup.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23695 posts
WA, 23695 posts
8 Jul 2007 8:42pm
Don't think any major manufacturer is using infusion yet????

At least I'm pretty sure Cobra uses hand layup, sraying resin from a gun hooked up to an overhead rail and squeegee'ing it out. I guess the problem is slack squeegee action ..... probably where there is a compound curve and you have to take that extra bit of care.

It pisses me off that the only boards I've seen busted in the last few years have ALL had an area of cloth not wet out properly. That means a modern waveboard is basically unbreakable for most sailors: but there are a few that are made wrong. If it is outa warranty you're stuffed, even though it is THEIR fault. Very annoying to buy a board that has been sailed by a 40kg chick on the river only and never jumped (so you know it is good) ... then when 12 months old you buy it and bust in in the waves. No it hasn't happened to me BTW
eric344
eric344
138 posts
138 posts
8 Jul 2007 8:59pm
if you want a new 85 freestyle wave board, you should have a look to the goya "one aqua serie" 85l ,
Francisco says it's one of his favorite "when the conditions are not fully here" ;
i've been nicely surprised when i tried the aqua serie for freestyle, and even more surprised when i tried it in waves, it's not as good waveboard than the "custom wave" but it's so easy to use that i enjoyed it a lot ;
and i reckon that goya boards are very strong, i never had problem with mine (and i've been using it a lot)

Quatro freestyle wave 85 looks also very good but i never tried any, the only thing i can tell is that i've seen in Maui team riders Graham Ezzy, Kauli Seadi and Keith Teboul working on it, and from how they were sailing, i can just guess that they've been enjoying the board !

If you need more info, you should contact Alberto at windshack or check his website : www.windshack.com

I hope you'll find a board you like,
eric


P.C_simpson
P.C_simpson
WA
1492 posts
WA, 1492 posts
9 Jul 2007 8:36am
Quatro, all the way, got a 95 litre freestyle wave this summer, for lighter wind days, kicks ass, a bit wide in the tail for full aggressive turns in real small waves, but the bigger the wave the better it feels, flat water kicks ass especially jumping, never felt so much control in the air. hopefully save enough for a smaller version for this summer.
The Grinch
The Grinch
WA
733 posts
WA, 733 posts
9 Jul 2007 9:59am
quote:
Originally posted by DL

quote:
Originally posted by jord070

... 69leater wave...



I feel physically pained reading that. Please spell it "litre" in the future





Jordo, buy an Evo, i'm stoked with mine.
black dog
black dog
SA
42 posts
SA, 42 posts
9 Jul 2007 1:23pm
Yo Demon
How much do you weigh, how long you been sailing and what sort of sailing do you do ?
The jp 84 FSW is a great board, I had the same model (2003) for a while back and loved it as an all rounder.
JP boards cop a lot of flack (especially from the WA based crew who are all starboard mad)
In my opinion and in my personal experience I have had 9 JP boards and have snapped 2 of them.
One was a complete warranty job and was swapped no probs and with a big smile from the shop I bought it through.
The second board was snapped after 3 seasons of serious punishment which included multiple airline flights and multiple super flat landings while learning table tops and push loops. With 20 odd years windsurfing experience I doubt any board would have survived the punishment.

I think if you can provide a few more details in regards to what you want to do with the board and what you weigh it will be easier for all of us to provide a possible board solution/suggestion that fits your requirements

woof woof
HAIL
HAIL
SA
1160 posts
SA, 1160 posts
9 Jul 2007 6:59pm
well heres some more details! i wieght approx 70kgs. most of the sailing i do is bump and jump however i really want to do more wave stuff. i absoulatly love gettin air! and i think that may have helped in my boards destrucion? i realy really hate sharp railied boards! eg. F2 axiss.[}:)] have been sailing for about 3 and a half years. can gybe well and trying duck gybes and love ripping waves!! another thing is that i have a buget.. of about $1200. im a first year apprentice and our pay is **** house! i spend most of my pay on gear! thats about all i know? by the way! thanks heaps for the help every one!
cheers, chris
divaldo
divaldo
SA
2879 posts
SA, 2879 posts
9 Jul 2007 7:59pm
Sorry to hear Chris...if your are looking for a board to borrow I have a Bic Vivace in the shed, good in a straight line, but buggered if I know how to make it turn, also have a 295 John Hall, all you have to do is ask.....

:)

...and you know what my advice was

See you soon.
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