old f2 wave board

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Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14968 posts
QLD, 14968 posts
1 Aug 2006 1:24am
i got an old f2 wave board. it is totally stuffed.

does anyone know if it is possible to remove the plastic and turn it into a glass board?

without the plastic will it snap in two? has anyone done this type of thing before.

gestalt.
racycoot
racycoot
WA
315 posts
WA, 315 posts
1 Aug 2006 10:26am
An interesting concept!

You can do mine when you stuff yours up and figure out how much easier it would be "next time"
Crash Landing
Crash Landing
NSW
1173 posts
NSW, 1173 posts
1 Aug 2006 2:26pm
i knew someone who was going to make a business out of turning windsurfing boards into surfboards. Spoke to a mate who made good windsurfing boards and kit boards and he thought it was a bad idea - strength, weight, flex, rocker line. Not sure if he ever did it.

I'd still give it a go though! Make it like a "tuff lite" board...
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14968 posts
QLD, 14968 posts
3 Aug 2006 12:18am
cheers guys,

will let you know how much damage i cause taking the plastic off.
Troppo
Troppo
WA
887 posts
WA, 887 posts
3 Aug 2006 7:18am
Watch out for the staples in them!!!
mkseven
mkseven
QLD
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QLD, 2315 posts
3 Aug 2006 3:48pm
I wouldnt do it. Why do you want to remove the plastic? F2's use plastic, hard foam then core foam- the hard foam/plastic bond is better than the foam/foam bond so you will lose your hardfoam. The plastic is relatively light so you will add alot of weight replacing it with glass. I have not cut into the deck area from mast track back but I have seen no carbon or material apart from plastic and hardfoam.

How have you damaged it?

I'm assuming there must be extra layers around the standing area since staples are mentioned and i'm guessing troppo has had some experience with these boards. If not then they are just thermoformed, very different to the layup which requires staples.
Troppo
Troppo
WA
887 posts
WA, 887 posts
3 Aug 2006 5:23pm
i had to remove some of the plastic to reapair mine. it was an f2 axxis..**** construction... there was no carbon. First of all the mast track gave way that was fine whacked a new one in and glassed over the plastic. good as new.

Then the area under the front strap went soft on the jumping side and the seams split open so i had to cut bits off and tried to get the fantastic plastic off. not easy. There is this funny kind of foam underneath it with a layer of chop strand glass holding it in place. The foam didnt seem as tough as divinicell and wouldnt sand it went gooey it had standard esky type foam under that which i replaced in the area with a whole bunch of quecell mixed with epoxy. Had smoke coming out the f#$%cker but it was hard as a rock.

not sure what the staples were doing but they were definatley in there.

my advice... throw it in the bin and get something else.

after all these repairs the seams just kept splitting in other places. same thing happened to 3 other f2's in my area and we dont even have surf.
mkseven
mkseven
QLD
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QLD, 2315 posts
3 Aug 2006 7:41pm
The older axxis's were a slightly different construction. If there is any glass or carbon under the standing area then they will use staples.

and yer the hard foam isnt as tough as divinicell but it is closed cell so it dosent leak.

With the seams I try to catch it early and qcell it, I havent had an f2 actually leak though from the seam seperating.
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14968 posts
QLD, 14968 posts
3 Aug 2006 8:30pm
well all i can say is all of the above.

the mast track has been rolled and then repaired with carbon and lots of resin.

the fin box has been rolled and repaired with carbon and lots of resin.

there appears there must have been a big hole in front of the foot straps because that has been filled in with carbon and lots of resin.

the seams on the rail are all starting to split. and on and on and on.

so my plan is to grab the angle grinder and shave the baby. then rout out the boxes. stick some woodies in and resin it all back together.

finishing it off with glass and a carbon stringer. will put plywood under the pads.

it is just for fun. will probably take a long time and once complete at 84lt will prob only be used every 2 months or so. as i was given the board (thanks curac) i got nothing to lose and it will be cheaper than buying a new wave board.
hobie14t
hobie14t
QLD
259 posts
QLD, 259 posts
3 Aug 2006 9:13pm
Im with Troppo, toss it out and pick up another wave board second hand, you would have to be better off with a cheap second hand job then a home repaired job.
Of course if you enjoy fiberglassing and mucking around in the shed go for it I guess. Seems like a lot of bother for a board that has passed its use by date.
Kremlin
Kremlin
418 posts
418 posts
4 Aug 2006 7:07am
Comrade Getsalt

I am in favour of the throw out method.
I spent the windless part of an entire season trying to do what you want to do.
In the end i had a board that was TOO heavy, didn't plain, didn't carve, didn't catch waves. In fact all the board did was make me miss the opportunity to catch some waves when the conditions were firing.

As a result I cut the bastard up and made it into a chair (A very heavy chair mind you) but its the BEST windsurfing chair I have ever sat on !

Kremlin

Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14968 posts
QLD, 14968 posts
4 Aug 2006 12:13pm
funny you should mention that comrade kremlin,

after reading the posts last night i must admit i started to think of ways to do what you suggest.


ok. it is a throw out...

cheers all.
jonesmb
jonesmb
QLD
77 posts
QLD, 77 posts
4 Aug 2006 12:49pm
I was going to reglass an f2 sputnik which had de-laminated but I found cleanly getting the skin off and preserving the foam core was not so easy and the core was quite wet. In the end it was fun cutting it up into many small pieces with a circular saw. Interestingly there was quite a bit of aluminium inside and all carbon.

On a similar note when these plastic coated boards "split" at the seams are they still water tight? ie. is the glass layer underneath still intact?

Malcolm
mkseven
mkseven
QLD
2315 posts
QLD, 2315 posts
4 Aug 2006 1:14pm
Gestalt what you propose is definately too much trouble, you would be better off keeping the dimensions of the board and starting with your own blank.

Is it really that dead or is it a viable board for your forward loop practice? Boards which you dont care about when you crease and snap them are what you want right now.

I've not had alot of seamed boards (2 or 3 maybe) but none leaked when the seams seperated it was cosmetic more than anything.
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