NSW
290 posts
Hi guys havent posted for a while
looking for recomendations for lightweight rig
due to my health situation I must keep the weight of my rig to a minimum.I am just a flat water criuzer using short long board..ie Fanatic Bee 317 and a newly aquired Mistral Prodigy all with centreboards.
also will probably use my f2 Lightning and Mistral Tariffa just for the fun of it.
also a lightweight second rig will be used to teach any friends that I can con into saILING with me...so I may need duplicate rig obviously in this case price will be a consideration.
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i need lightweight rig recomendations.hopefully with correct kilogram ratings.obviously this gives me a way to compare models.
most importantly the lightest sails
from 3.5 , 4.5, 5.5, 6.5 sizes or in sizes between
second hand or new
lightweight mast to suit
boom not so important to me but if any suggestions.
due to my health I usually sail 4.5 and I find that the 5.5 can be tiring if the weight of these sails can be reduced I will be able to have more fun.ironically Im wondering if I should go back to unbattened triangles as these were generally lighter than battened I remember a 6 on a fibreglas mast being quite easy or was i a little heathier back then
sails id consider new lightweights but second hand gladly prefered/considered]
and i dont care how old either although I think the more current the better as a better performing sail will be lighter cause it may be equivalent to a larger sail in performance.
but mast and boom id be thinking secondhand
once I investigate what I want I will post a wanted add in the forum but if anyone has a lightweight secondhand rig id consider that but dont contact me with your old rig your offloading if it is not truley one of the lightest around. give me actual kilos of sail ,mast and boom.
I also need a Mistral Prodigy mast base too to suit the adjustable sliding base.
edit:
keep in mind Im flat water sailing...just cruizing....so I guess wave sails etc not applicable to my use so much.
WA
33 posts
The biggest difference you may notice is if you spend big on a 75% or 100% mast. I run 100's with my wave gear and it makes a very noticable difference. My 2 cents.
NSW
290 posts
thanks poledancer
yes i used to have a 75% with a previous board but decided to let it go as a complete setup...not wanting to split a nicely matched setup.
I would like another...and your recomendation is obviously from your noticed difference in weight.Ill keep that in mind
racycoot...they look interesting I will check into these further...looking for actual kilos...the larger three look promissing
yes they are 5 to 6 lbs [about 3 kilos]...i will compare these to the weight of my current rig...once I physically put mine on the scales
cheers
NSW
290 posts
cheers notwal
they look very interesting but as you say expensive
It seems that the sails i have are not much difference in weight to the lightweight modern sails...so perhaps there is not a lot to be gained in weight
perhaps i should bne thinking in line of light mast as previously mentioned
still looking for ligther sails if anyone knows any
NSW
1871 posts
I don't think that there is a noticable difference between sails of the same type. However there is a difference in how they feel, some feel very light in the hands and hence easier to manouver and use and less tiring.
I'd be looking for a light handling sail. My new N Pryde V8 7.5 feels more like a 6m sail, I think the boom cut out helps.
NSW
290 posts
yes waiting4wind
l agree hence my thinking about more modern sails
but how do you know which feel lighter as thier design achieves this?
And as a flatwater cruiser what type of sail do I look at?
the styles confuse me a bit....
a wave sail would seem to be a lighter design due to its shape and the application it is used for...ie should be lightweight,short boom to clear waves,high cut for same. as one may tire easily in the rough and tumble of wave sailing.
but does it adapt to cruizing well?
do i look at slalom,or freeride...or what?
NSW
290 posts
presently I have a matching Quiver of 3 sails,
Neil Pryde Raf Cam Dynamic St
4.5
5.5
6.5
use with or without single cams
my guess mid 90's but cannot find any details on net.
sleeve does not appear overly wide as the cam fits externally
so I dont think water in sleeve should be too much weight..
I am assuming here.Its been a while since I used a non cam sail...perhaps they are wider in the sleeve allowing a greater amount of water in the sleeve.And i cant remember non cam sleeves.
the sails when I weighed them are pretty much an average weight...not any heavier in fact
appear to be the same as most so called current lightweights.
the other sail I have is a GAASTRA 4.4 Slalom CS 1 seems about the same weight as the others with an external cam.
i have a number of old sails I dont use that seem light enough..non cam.But somewhat well used.
am I really going to gain much over the sails Im using...I think they are all slalom but not sure on the prydes.
