rig and waterstarts

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Bladez
Bladez
NSW
95 posts
NSW, 95 posts
3 Jan 2006 12:31pm
I can waterstart decently now but I waste all my energy trying to get the rig facing the right way to waterstart, does anyone have some suggestions.
I've tried lifting the clew to flip the sail but it just sinks the rig and I've tried swimming the rig through the wind but then the sail just depowers and I end up underneath it.
Most of the time I end up uphauling the sail abit so it flips over the other way but by the time I get it right I'm a fair way downwind :P
rosey
rosey
NSW
575 posts
NSW, 575 posts
3 Jan 2006 12:49pm
swim holding onto the top of your mast, or if the sail is on the wrong side for you to waterstart, do it in the opposite direction, and do half a tack, dropping the sail into the perect position for your next waterstart
nebbian
nebbian
WA
6277 posts
WA, 6277 posts
3 Jan 2006 10:16am
Fly the sail facing whichever way it's facing, then do an almost waterstart but let go your back hand just after the mast tip goes through the eye of the wind. Remember to have your front hand right next to the mast. This should gybe the sail around so that it's still flying, the right way up.

I'm not very good at this yet but it's worked a couple of times for me.
Bladez
Bladez
NSW
95 posts
NSW, 95 posts
3 Jan 2006 5:20pm
Sounds good, I'll give it a go next time.
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12886 posts
WA, 12886 posts
3 Jan 2006 7:15pm
Have you tried sliding the boom over the back of the board? This gets the sail out of the water, if it's 180 degrees wrong, you can do the clew flip trick, with a bit of control, if you're quick enough you can lean over the board and grab the mast before it sinks. If it's only 90 degrees wrong you can swim the whole rig around easier, because it's not in the water, do it the right way so that the wind is helping you.
oldie
oldie
VIC
356 posts
VIC, 356 posts
11 Jan 2006 11:30pm
Latest "Boards" has a sail flip trick that looks interesting and I will try it tomorro, maybe.
The idea is that if the sail is facing the wrong way you stand on the boom near the clew and sink it (assuming that you have swum the nose into the wind). Voila! The mast rises and drains as you pull it over by pulling on the harness line, then the uphaul. Lean back and when the rig is level you slide the mast over your head to get it to lift.

Easy to talk about, anyway..
nebbian
nebbian
WA
6277 posts
WA, 6277 posts
11 Jan 2006 10:37pm
Oldie:

Every time the clew gets even a little bit down into the water it wants to go further. Last Sunday I was out at the train and this happened, it's a royal B*TCH to get the sail back out of the water. I think what happens is that the wind blows the top surface of the water downwind, while the water underneath stays still... this means that you're trying to twist the sail against the current. Unless you're Hercules this is difficult.

So every time the sail was the wrong way around I flew it facing whichever way it was facing, then did the almost waterstart trick, flipping it over when it passed the eye of the wind. Then it would end up in the right position, ready for a waterstart. The whole operation, once it gets out of the water, took me about 5-10 seconds, and I did this about 10 times, it worked really well, and didn't require incredible strength.

Sure, try the Boards method but whenever I've tried it it's taken forever and sapped strength I'd rather use when upright
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12886 posts
WA, 12886 posts
11 Jan 2006 11:12pm
Yes agreed nebbian, I think it's the wind on the sail combined with downwind drift, wants to drive the clew deeper, the stronger the wind, and the bigger the sail the harder it is. The easiest way to fly from this situation is rest the boom on the back of the board, pulling down on the mast, the boards buoancy then forces the clew out of the water. If the boom misses the board, then the only way I have a chance, is to pull the mast towrds me as fast as possible (without raising it) then push it down, might have to do that a couple of times before it clears.
oldie
oldie
VIC
356 posts
VIC, 356 posts
15 Jan 2006 12:15am
Hmm..Just like you say. Them Boards blighters must be using a litle light sail in a still Pomme lake. A better rule might be NEVER SINK THE SAIL.
My problem is that I have got too good at uphauling my 6.5, in spite of a very sensitive lower back.
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