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Marvin
Marvin
WA
725 posts
WA, 725 posts
31 Jan 2012 9:32pm
...so i'm swimming in last thurs and a kitesurfer comes along - you right mate? yeah mate, just keep an eye on me. kitesurfer comes back on next rotation and says, here mate, grab this leash and i'll give you a tow. righto... drops the kite into the power zone and nothing happens except lines stretching... stretching.... ...then kapow, kitesurfer takes off and leash slips through fingers... until it reaches the hook at the end which completely mangles my ring finger.... @#$%^&

had to ditch the rig and paddle in one armed. (kitesurfer did retrieve my rig and show admirable compassion and care - thanks mate)

spent friday in microsurgery and now very sore and sorry and one armed. out for 6 weeks plus.

moral of story: look to yourself to swim in and no consorting with kitesurfers.

dusta
dusta
WA
2940 posts
WA, 2940 posts
31 Jan 2012 11:00pm
should have grabbed the back of his harness and left your boat floating there . Don't blame the kiter for your lack of intelligence
busterwa
busterwa
3782 posts
3782 posts
31 Jan 2012 11:25pm
Hope you get well mate. This brings up a very important issue.Issue Posted in general for comments for educational resolutions. I cant say what is right or wrong i don't know? Its a hard lesson but maybe we can resolve a repeat of it. Issue requires addressing.
ka43
ka43
NSW
3105 posts
NSW, 3105 posts
1 Feb 2012 9:40am
Funny how a fellow water user (the kiter) was trying to do the right thing and then some nong comes along (dusta) and shows the complete lack of, well, anything that is so rife in todays society. "F*** you jack, as long as Im OK I dont care"
Give yourself an uppercut!!
firiebob
firiebob
WA
3182 posts
WA, 3182 posts
1 Feb 2012 9:12am
Copy of what I posted in your thread in the general section Busterwa...



Self rescues not as easy as it sounds, we generally break things when it windy and rough. I can tell you it's no walk in the park trying to paddle it all in especially on a modern wide sailboard, the non slip rips your arms. I've been bleeding like a stuck pig doing it for about a K.

Here what worked for me, de rig and self rescue until a nice kite surfer rocks up to help, get him to lay on his board like a boogie board and do his kite thing, you grab hold of his harness handle while laying on all your crap and he tows you in. It's very easy and fast, no strain.

On beach kiss his feet and buy him a beer
Gorgo
Gorgo
VIC
5124 posts
VIC, 5124 posts
1 Feb 2012 1:02pm
I generally just orbit people and check that they're alright.

When towing most kiteboarders will dive the kite to get some power. That is exactly the wrong thing to do.

The dive is to get the board onto the plane and there is no way you're going to get a wrecked sailboard onto the plane.

There is so much mass and drag from the gear and person that it is impossible for anyone to hang on.

The correct thing is for the kiter to gently ease the kite into the direction you want to go and then sail in using just the power of the wind and the kite. Basically it's a tandem body drag (similar to a kiter retrieving their board).

The kiter can have the board on their feet and sit in water start position. I'm guessing that would be a bad thing because of the temptation to try and hurry things up by swooping the kite so they can get up on the board.

It's probably better if the sailor lies on the board and the kiter lies in body drag position. Grab hold of the harness with one hand and enjoy the view.

Do not attach anything to the kiter. If they get a burst of power everything is going to go boom!!!! It would take a fair bit of skill and experience to modulate the power of the kite with 100 kilos of windsurfer and gear tied to you.
Jens
Jens
WA
348 posts
WA, 348 posts
1 Feb 2012 10:31am
Well I'm with the kiters on this one. A couple of years ago on a big light day at Margs I stacked badly in the impact zone. At this spot a big swell generates heaps of downwind current that heads straight for some rather nasty rocks. After I surived the set I was looking around-couldn't see my gear anywhere. Along comes a friendly kiter, who could not only see my gear from his standing position, but also offered to drag me there. So I flipped on my back to minimize drag, and held onto the handle at the back of his harness with a straight arm. Worked a treat: after wet ride being trolled through the water like shark bait we reached my gear just metres from the rocks. No problems, no damage, and after a long tack back upwind I was back in action, thanks to my friendly kiter saviour. If I'd had to retrieve my gear under my own steam it definitely would have ended differently; those rocks would surely have stimulated the local windsurfing economy, as I expect to have been up for a rig and possibly board replacement....
Macroscien
Macroscien
QLD
6809 posts
QLD, 6809 posts
1 Feb 2012 1:35pm
Now I can see sense of so many kiters riding around you .
They could be easy trained to help windsurfers in the need
So far we had to relay on our-self or passing boat and jetskis.
I use to sail with spare 2m long thinn line in my harness pocket.
That possibly reminder of the early time we need a lot of assistance when gear break or skills inadequate was a daily occurrence in our group.
But it looks that towing windsurfer by kiter could be easier then by fellow windsurfer ! (?)
So far we help on many occasion kite surfers to retrieve their boards (and my spare line is very helpful on such occasion too).

d1
d1
WA
304 posts
d1 d1
WA, 304 posts
1 Feb 2012 12:57pm
On a related matter, I wonder if there is a good way for a windsurfer to retrieve a kiter's board? So far I've avoided helping out, because I need both hands to waterstart, and do not usually carry a leash or uphaul to tie their board to mine... Is it perhaps possible to balance the kiteboard on the back of the windsurfer and waterstart without losing it?
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
9207 posts
NSW, 9207 posts
1 Feb 2012 4:04pm
d1 said...

On a related matter, I wonder if there is a good way for a windsurfer to retrieve a kiter's board? So far I've avoided helping out, because I need both hands to waterstart, and do not usually carry a leash or uphaul to tie their board to mine... Is it perhaps possible to balance the kiteboard on the back of the windsurfer and waterstart without losing it?


If you run over them fast enough the fin will wedge into them and you can easily sail them back to shore.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23681 posts
WA, 23681 posts
1 Feb 2012 1:04pm
D1 I have grabbed one easily enough, just plane past and grab the footstrap.
TurtleHunter
TurtleHunter
WA
1675 posts
WA, 1675 posts
1 Feb 2012 1:22pm
kiters can tow you easy marvin but like you found out the clip on the end of a leash can be deadly. The kiter should of been more careful with the amount of power he was towing you with especially considering the clip could of just as easily slingshot into his head. It's not ideal but he could double his leash back so you have a loop to hold onto. Towing with the leash also stretches the leash so it's best to just hold onto the harness.
powersloshin
powersloshin
NSW
1855 posts
NSW, 1855 posts
1 Feb 2012 5:05pm
OK, it looks like the way to go is to incorporate a self inflating kite inside every sailboard
Marvin
Marvin
WA
725 posts
WA, 725 posts
2 Feb 2012 5:58am
maybe I should have done those kitesurfing lessons... might have been able to exercise a bit more common sense at the time .

anyway, my hand now looks like my avatar.
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