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wanted van for gear and sleep

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Created by bjornshak > 9 months ago, 10 Jan 2014
bjornshak
15 posts
10 Jan 2014 8:07PM
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Hi,
I have seen plenty of vans decked out for sailing and sleeping. I am looking at having a crack at one. Thinking second hand diesel empty shell? Any hints on brands to avoid or pitfalls to avoid?
Cheers all.

Windxtasy
WA, 3880 posts
10 Jan 2014 9:43PM
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for a minute I thought you said gear and sheep...

flanagaj
WA, 177 posts
10 Jan 2014 10:28PM
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bjornshak said..
Hi,
I have seen plenty of vans decked out for sailing and sleeping. I am looking at having a crack at one. Thinking second hand diesel empty shell? Any hints on brands to avoid or pitfalls to avoid?
Cheers all.



I reckon the Toyota HiAce looks like a good one. I had one in the UK, and it was a workhorse. I actually prefer the look of the HiAce in Aus over the european model. No idea why the european model is different to the UK one.

WindmanV
VIC, 652 posts
11 Jan 2014 10:00AM
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Hello, Bjorn,

If you search this archive, there is plenty of advice re vans. You can also try here:
forums.boards.mpora.com/showthread.php/53904-Van-fit-outs-A-compendium

HiAce: excellent parts availability, reliable, durable.

VW and Mercedes: expensive parts (but there are second-hand and non-genuine importers), make sure there is a local mechanic or shop near you who can work on them.

Hyundai iLoad: a real challenge to Toyo, Mercs and VW and worth giving serious consideration. Get the diesel, manual transmission spec. Good load space and excellent driving characteristics (much better than Toyos, but not the Euros).

Ford Transit: only get the VM model and the later the better. The load space, even on the FWD SWB model, will blow your mind.

Just remember: on front-wheel drive vehicles, if a clutch goes, the whole engine and transmission has to be removed = quite expensive.

Pitfalls: watch out for rust beginning in the load space, the floor and behind plywood wall protectors. Seek advice in the Forum (there???s some excellent advice from a dude named WindmanV ). Have a look at Valvoline Tectyl 506, which dries faster than deodourised fish oil.

Hope this helps.



Flanagaj: the Hiace in the UK was the SBV here and it was deleted from the Oz range in (I think) the early 2000???s, because of poor sales. The current-shape HiAce in Oz has not been taken up in the UK because of engine-emission standards. You can Google for info. Toyo UK are looking to badge-engineer from a Euro manufacturer for their next HiAce (Google again).

N1GEL
NSW, 861 posts
11 Jan 2014 10:00AM
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Having driven quite a few when I was a tradie I can say generally they're pretty bumby. This is because most vans drive from infront of the front wheels. Best bet for a smooth, more car like, ride is one where the driver's seat is behind the front wheels. It makes a massive difference to comfort and ride. Transporter, iLoad and Mercedes are all good vans.

bjornshak
15 posts
11 Jan 2014 7:12AM
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Windxtasy said..

for a minute I thought you said gear and sheep...


Ha ha. Not a kiwi.

bjornshak
15 posts
11 Jan 2014 7:16AM
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Thanks all, much appreciated.
I know naaaathing about vans, the advice helps immensely.

Jas71
QLD, 384 posts
11 Jan 2014 10:04AM
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I've just got my self a Vito and love it, it drives grate cheap to run and lots of room. Do your homework and get whatever you decide on get it checked out.

jh2703
NSW, 1191 posts
11 Jan 2014 11:13AM
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Turbo diesel iLoad is what I have, Great to drive with heaps of power an great fuel economy. I've had mine for 4 years now and done 900000 kms, it did blow a motor and a turbo in the first year but it's been trouble free since(replaced under warranty). Services are expensive that's the only downfall, I've got enough room for a bed 4 boards and a quiver of sail as well as all the other stuff that goes with windsurfing.





needsalt
NSW, 333 posts
11 Jan 2014 11:35AM
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WindmanV said...
Hello, Bjorn,

If you search this archive, there is plenty of advice re vans. You can also try here:
forums.boards.mpora.com/showthread.php/53904-Van-fit-outs-A-compendium

HiAce: excellent parts availability, reliable, durable.

VW and Mercedes: expensive parts (but there are second-hand and non-genuine importers), make sure there is a local mechanic or shop near you who can work on them.

Hyundai iLoad: a real challenge to Toyo, Mercs and VW and worth giving serious consideration. Get the diesel, manual transmission spec. Good load space and excellent driving characteristics (much better than Toyos, but not the Euros).

Ford Transit: only get the VM model and the later the better. The load space, even on the FWD SWB model, will blow your mind.

Just remember: on front-wheel drive vehicles, if a clutch goes, the whole engine and transmission has to be removed = quite expensive.

Pitfalls: watch out for rust beginning in the load space, the floor and behind plywood wall protectors. Seek advice in the Forum (there???s some excellent advice from a dude named WindmanV ). Have a look at Valvoline Tectyl 506, which dries faster than deodourised fish oil.

Hope this helps.



Flanagaj: the Hiace in the UK was the SBV here and it was deleted from the Oz range in (I think) the early 2000???s, because of poor sales. The current-shape HiAce in Oz has not been taken up in the UK because of engine-emission standards. You can Google for info. Toyo UK are looking to badge-engineer from a Euro manufacturer for their next HiAce (Google again).



Best most objective van post I've seen. Awesome. Thank you!

Sputnik11
VIC, 855 posts
11 Jan 2014 12:53PM
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jh2703 said..

Turbo diesel iLoad is what I have, Great to drive with heaps of power an great fuel economy. I've had mine for 4 years now and done 900000 kms, it did blow a motor and a turbo in the first year but it's been trouble free since(replaced under warranty). Services are expensive that's the only downfall, I've got enough room for a bed 4 boards and a quiver of sail as well as all the other stuff that goes with windsurfing.







where do you sleep? and where do the sheep go?

jh2703
NSW, 1191 posts
11 Jan 2014 2:49PM
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^^^^No room for the sheep but a short man can sleep in there no problem. Through the side door I've got a single mattress, you can see the yellow and blue sleeping bag on it.

Sputnik11
VIC, 855 posts
11 Jan 2014 3:31PM
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^^^^No room for the sheep but a short man can sleep in there no problem. Through the side door I've got a single mattress, you can see the yellow and blue sleeping bag on it.



Nice one.

I suppose you could put a sheep or two in the driver and passenger seats while you sleep in the back.

dusta
WA, 2914 posts
11 Jan 2014 12:58PM
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Turbo diesel iLoad is what I have, Great to drive with heaps of power an great fuel economy. I've had mine for 4 years now and done 900000 kms,


you have done just under a million km's in 4 years ?

Hooksey
WA, 510 posts
11 Jan 2014 4:08PM
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bjornshak said...
[br]Hi,
I have seen plenty of vans decked out for sailing and sleeping. I am looking at having a crack at one. Thinking second hand diesel empty shell? Any hints on brands to avoid or pitfalls to avoid?
Cheers all.



Where do you live? Where do you plan on sailing? Are you taking mates / family of is this car for Han-solo-WA-trips?

bjornshak
15 posts
12 Jan 2014 6:56PM
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jh2703 said..

Turbo diesel iLoad is what I have, Great to drive with heaps of power an great fuel economy. I've had mine for 4 years now and done 900000 kms, it did blow a motor and a turbo in the first year but it's been trouble free since(replaced under warranty). Services are expensive that's the only downfall, I've got enough room for a bed 4 boards and a quiver of sail as well as all the other stuff that goes with windsurfing.







Wow!

bjornshak
15 posts
12 Jan 2014 7:23PM
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Been doing some digging, and the wife is very keen (hmm work that out?) and the posts have really helped.

In terms of location, we are Sydney based. We will probably stick to East Coast, then perhaps explore South then over to WA.

Time to head to the auctions!

ikw777
QLD, 2995 posts
12 Jan 2014 9:31PM
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MikeyS
VIC, 1443 posts
12 Jan 2014 10:37PM
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Plenty of room for the sheep to go on the rear nudge baaa.

zacd
VIC, 103 posts
13 Jan 2014 10:00PM
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Im in need of a new car and was thinking a holden combo would fit the bill. Does anyone know whether you can fit a 230cm board in above the seats in the upper shelf?

Ellobuddha
NSW, 614 posts
13 Jan 2014 11:07PM
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I vote Iload (proud owner)

ikw777
QLD, 2995 posts
13 Jan 2014 10:27PM
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H I A C E.

N1GEL
NSW, 861 posts
14 Jan 2014 8:23PM
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zacd said...
Im in need of a new car and was thinking a holden combo would fit the bill. Does anyone know whether you can fit a 230cm board in above the seats in the upper shelf?


NO WAY!! WORLD'S WORST CAR!!! A company I worked for as a tradie had 3. They were always in the shop and only had 120K on them. The 3 of them used at least a litre of oil a week and we replaced 2 clutches, a gearbox and a motor in the 6 months I worked there. They were dogs to drive and visibility was down-right dangerous (worse than a HQ Sandman I once owned). Just Google it, you'll see what I mean.

N1GEL
NSW, 861 posts
14 Jan 2014 8:25PM
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Ellobuddha said...
I vote Iload (proud owner)


I'd like on too. Been looking at i40 wagons but they ain't cheap cars anymore

DaniS
91 posts
15 Jan 2014 8:19AM
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Sprinter Van Mercedes Diesel does 21 mile per gallon. I still have about 6 feet behind the driver seat empty, going to set it up in the spring with small fridge,TV and a bed.
It will fit about 17 boards and 25 sail with no problem

N1GEL
NSW, 861 posts
15 Jan 2014 2:11PM
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Sprinter Van Mercedes Diesel does 21 mile per gallon. I still have about 6 feet behind the driver seat empty, going to set it up in the spring with small fridge,TV and a bed.
It will fit about 17 boards and 25 sail with no problem


21mpg... not sure sprinter is an apt name for such a vehicle.

bowsa
QLD, 550 posts
15 Jan 2014 5:39PM
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any van generally good. better if parts are cheap but with this you may sacrifice a bit of comfort.

i had a 98 mazda e2000. went from bris to WA and back then last summer down to Tas and back. my only negative on these vans is that you sit right on the engine which makes the front cabin sooooo bloody hot! also, make sure you have aircon. it gets pretty hot driving across the nullabor.

in terms of fitting out a van, we just made a wooden frame and screwed it to the floor (might not want to do this with a newer van). i fitted all my gear underneath or 4 peoples gear in the whole van (if gear is put on the bed).

enjoy, vans are fun :)








seanhogan
3081 posts
15 Jan 2014 7:00PM
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I-load diesel !! I run mine on cooked oil..... cheap as !!!

Stuthepirate
SA, 3516 posts
15 Jan 2014 10:19PM
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$2500
4WD Mitsi Delica



3 x Boards
4 x Sails
3 x Booms
3 x Masts
+ enough room to stretch out




ikw777
QLD, 2995 posts
16 Jan 2014 2:17PM
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Nah! Hiace!



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