Hello

I was thinking that it would be interesting to know the realistic speeds of different types of often used equipment. A guestimate would perhaps be:

Formula + 10,7M = 20 knots

Big slalom 135 + 8.6= 30 Knots

Medium Slalom 105ish + 7m= 35 knots

Small slalom+5,8 = ??

I'd like to hear your thoughts....

Some examples from WA waters

Formula 10.7 ~30

gpsteamchallenge.com.au/sailor_session/show?date=2014-04-20&team=30

Big slalom ~36

gpsteamchallenge.com.au/sailor_session/show?date=2013-08-13&team=10

Medium slalom ~40

www.gpsteamchallenge.com.au/sailor_session/show?date=2013-10-24&team=10

Small slalom ~44

www.gpsteamchallenge.com.au/sailor_session/show?date=2013-09-16&team=10

yep i agree.
drop about five knots for us mere mortals.

sboardcrazy said...
What sort of speeds do the good guys get on waveboards with wave sails or they don't use that gear..

Its funny you brought it up l sometimes use a single fin waveboard when it gets messy l also leave the single back strap on & find the board a little forgiven.sometimes l pass other folk on kitted out race gear.l dont use wave sails prefer a twin cam or no cam.l think l have reached around 38 knots but it has to be really windy.the board used is a old j.p.78 litre waveboard.

Ask Spotty what he did at Sandy point with a strapless SUP

gavnwend said...
a few weeks ago a chick did 35 knots on a wally down wind of cause

I don't believe that.

Unless towed by a boat. Even the it would take a lot to stop from slipping off and to hang on to the rope.

sailquik said...

gavnwend said...
a few weeks ago a chick did 35 knots on a wally down wind of cause

I don't believe that.

Unless towed by a boat. Even the it would take a lot to stop from slipping off and to hang on to the rope.

seriously who would believe that l think the most a longboard could crank out would be 25 knots & that's with A.B or duncklebeck at the helm.lol.

Most of these speeds quoted are in artificial conditions like sailing behind a ferry or in protected bay waters.

I have sailed behind slowboat on a 6.4m/91litre and Volwater on slightly bigger gear in the Swan River in a 25-28 knot plus seabreeze in rough water and i can say both never hit more than 30 knots,certainly not in the rougher middle section of the river anyway.

said..
I believe Spotty got a 42 on a wave board at SP. It is flat enough to get the board on the tail kick.

What do you mean get the board on the tail kick?

said..
I'd like to know if there was anyway to work out how your performing by weight - like what sort of speeds a 63kg 5'6" female should be capable of getting..I suppose there are too many variables and then speed gear would get better results than wave etc..
Be interesting to compare say a 100kg guys results and somehow work out what speed I'd need to get to be sailing to be going as well as him in the same conditions..

While body weight is very much a big factor in going fast, technique, water and wind are more so.

But the easiest way is, sail within someone else at your local spot -> it you beat them, then you are fast. It really isn't much more complicated than that.

about 10 knots slower than the guys, zara davis is taller & slightly heavier. Karin is about that size held record at 41.25 but I think she wore weight for her record. Height & weight shouldnt make that much difference, the little guys can hold their own but need to be more careful in gear choice to suit them. It's easy for big guys to go quick but smaller people can rig for efficiency & really make use of the reduced drag.

This threads got a bit off topic . Freeride kit can be really fast and the location can make a huge difference My PB from over 5 year's ago was at Sandy Point on an F2 Axxis and Freeride sail. After getting slalom and speed gear and improving my sailing I still haven't gone any faster albeit I haven't made it back to Sandy.

sboardcrazy said..
I'd like to know if there was anyway to work out how your performing by weight - like what sort of speeds a 63kg 5'6" female should be capable of getting..I suppose there are too many variables and then speed gear would get better results than wave etc..
Be interesting to compare say a 100kg guys results and somehow work out what speed I'd need to get to be sailing to be going as well as him in the same conditions..

Sue, I just crunched some numbers for a big day earlier this year where 19 adult GPSTC sailors were all sailing at in the one location on the same afternoon - Liptons in 25 - 30 knots. I think everyone was on speed or slalom gear. Lots pf Pb's were scored.

The ladies present (#1, #2 & #4 for 2 sec in GPSTC in Aus this year) scored 37, 35 and 34 knots respectively (to the closest whole number).
Slowboat, who is currently #1 in Aus for 2 sec scored 43 knots.
Of the 16 adult males sailing only two had scores within the range of the ladies, the rest were all higher. The range for the men was 35 to 43 knots, with most in the 38 & 39 knot range.
Slowboat was probably the heaviest sailor on that day - I think he's about 86kg?, but the other guys who scored in the 40's aren't big. For the guys, the scores reflected skill more than weight. The ladies are lighter but I think gender differences and skill level play more of a role than weight.

.........the scores reflected skill more than weight. The ladies are lighter but I think gender differences and skill level play more of a role than weight.

Crikey I hope so, because if not, at my weight I should be approaching the speed of sound!