Hi Russh,

It does look like the seabreezes are starting.

How is sellicks on south to south easterlies seabreezes?

Choppy or flat?

Carl Macdonald said...

Hi Russh,

It does look like the seabreezes are starting.

How is sellicks on south to south easterlies seabreezes?

Choppy or flat?

No expert on this but from my experiences - SSE are pretty choppy and sellicks is renown for its gustiness - 30 knts all around you and dead glass next thing you're getting hit by a mega gust that backwinds you - a really weird place at times - SE - E is a bit smoother - not great for speed sailing on the way out but Kim Roberts used to do some very quick runs parallel to the beach on his speed gear - some of the old crew tell tales of sailing along the cliffs in a strong se and they say it was as smooth as butter - since the access has been blocked I am not too sure if anyone heads up there anymore

The seabreezes have been great at Semaphore ...

Friday 2 Oct ... 6.2m and Freewave 95 - 4pm to 6pm

Monday 5 Oct ... 6.2m and FW95 - 4.30pm to 7pm

Tuesday 6 Oct .. wind great but passed.

Wednesday 7 Oct ... 6.2m and FW95 - 5.30pm to 6.30pm

I hav rang Pt Adelaide council,They reckon you will get fined for windsurfing(84056818) Ring ya self an find out.........

Have a look at the council by-laws - there is nothing to stop you from windsurfing at Bower road unless they change the by-laws.


CITY OF PORT ADELAIDE ENFIELD
By-law made under the Local Government Act 1999
BY-LAW NO. 3 - LOCAL GOVERNMENT LAND
::::::
1.1.2 "inland waters" includes any pond, lake, river, wetland or other body of water under the care, control and management of the Council, but does not include any waters within adjacent land, subjacent land or the port and harbour of Port Adelaide as defined in the Harbours and Navigation Act 1993 and Harbours and Navigation Regulations 1994;

2. Activities Requiring Permission1
2.3. Boating
subject to the Harbours and Navigation Act 1993:
2.3.1 launch or retrieve a boat other than from a boat ramp constructed for that purpose;
2.3.2 moor a boat, canoe or watercraft on any land or pontoon attached to any land to which this sub-paragraph applies;
2.3.3 propel, sail or otherwise use any boat, canoe or watercraft or other object on any inland waters;

2.19. Kite Surfing and Kite Buggies
2.19.1 launch or fly a kite designed or used for the purpose of pulling or carrying a person;

http://www.portenf.sa.gov.au/webdata/resources/files/BY-LAW_NO__3_LOCAL_GOVERNMENT_LAND.pdf

Look on their website - ask them when you ring what by law they are interpreting this from - no by law - no enforcement - maybe if members of windsurfing SA that were concerned got together they could approach the council from that perspective and discuss it legitimately - maybe being a member of Windsurfing SA with insurance may help the cause.

We looked at the by laws them recently (two weeks ago) and it there was information about restricted use of inland waters but nothing preventing windsurfing in open ocean or rigging on council beach side land.

Unless they have a by-law to support them (which may have been introduced) and have this posted publicly there is absolutely nothing they can do and they cannot penalise you for something that has no fine in their regulations etc.

Look at the web page and see if you can find anything that's been updated - I must say ringing some council buffoon and talking windsurfing - it may be related to the kite bans - most of them wouldn't know the difference.

More council scare tactics if you ask me - stand your ground and until they change the laws challenge them to provide evidence of the bans

grandfromage said...

Hey Russ,

Not sure about approaching the council, it may spur some action against windsurfing. If there is no legislation against it maybe let sleeping dogs lie. Might be worth attending the occasional council meeting. I just read the minutes of the previous few meetings and there seems to be nothing in them regarding windsurfing. Assuming i read the minutes for the correct meetings.

I may go to the next meeting (next tues 7pm, Council Chamber, 62 Commercial Road, Port Adelaide). The last thing we need is something like this to slip through un noticed. Probably nothing to worry about though.

Totally agree Chris

I'll leave that up to you guys on the Northern beaches - for some of us southerners a drive up there is usually out of desperation for a sail - long way to drive to hurt your knees in the chop but some of the nicest cleanest wind around in a seabreeze without doubt - if they start trying to fine people then representation may be worth it.

a good plan Chris re the council meetings - I think its best for people to be informed - otherwise people may well get scared into not doing stuff that they legally can!!

I remember the City of Holdfast Bay cracking down on us windsurfers two seasons ago, they got us confused with kitesurfers. Peter Cieser ended up having a meeting with the council and got us windsurfers off the hook (still have the e-mail from the council, I think), as there where no reports from the public regarding windsurfers, only kitesurfers. The dog inspectors where trying to police it. This crap seems to happen every summer!