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rudyforest
rudyforest
SA
36 posts
SA, 36 posts
28 Feb 2011 3:28pm
Just arrived in SA (seacliff) and my gear will arrive the 15th of March so I havn't been out yet. But looking around, the Coorong seems to have some spectacular scenery....is it possible to windsurf it on the lee side of the dunes for some flatwater speed sailing? If so what locations are recommended and will the water be all nasty from the Queensland floodwater entering the Murray?

Cheers,

E
divaldo
divaldo
SA
2879 posts
SA, 2879 posts
28 Feb 2011 4:32pm
Not sure about further down the coorong, I would imagine the dunes would be big enough to keep the wind off it, maybe look at the Murray Mouth, place called Sugars Beach, but with the flood waters charging through there and a ban on cockling and fishing could be a good place to avoid.

If you are into the flat stuff, check out Milang, I think anything with south in it is good to sail, also Boggy Lake,

We usually sail Sellicks, Seacliff, Kent reserve, Seaford, Days St and Semaphore,

You at Seacliff? so jealous!

rudyforest
rudyforest
SA
36 posts
SA, 36 posts
1 Mar 2011 11:54am
Thanks! Yes I'm at Seacliff behind the yacht club up on the hill. And no, I don't own it, just renting! But it will be nice to drag the equipment down the hill in 30 seconds and get out there.

Anyway, you'll see me out, I have solid colored ezzy sails and havn't seen anyone with ezzy's so that'll be me.

Not really into flat stuff, just thought it would be nice scenery in Coorong.

Didn't know about Kent Reserve, thanks. It is good in South winds?

Was just reviewing the shark sightings (I know, cliche for new visitors) seems Seaford, Henley, and Brighton are some pretty favourite nieghborhoods for our grey suited friends to hang around. Anyone you know purchase a shark shield for the tail of their board ( I spend a lot of time in the water!)
divaldo
divaldo
SA
2879 posts
SA, 2879 posts
1 Mar 2011 12:32pm
rudyforest said...

Thanks! Yes I'm at Seacliff behind the yacht club up on the hill. And no, I don't own it, just renting! But it will be nice to drag the equipment down the hill in 30 seconds and get out there.

Anyway, you'll see me out, I have solid colored ezzy sails and havn't seen anyone with ezzy's so that'll be me.

Not really into flat stuff, just thought it would be nice scenery in Coorong.

Didn't know about Kent Reserve, thanks. It is good in South winds?

Was just reviewing the shark sightings (I know, cliche for new visitors) seems Seaford, Henley, and Brighton are some pretty favourite nieghborhoods for our grey suited friends to hang around. Anyone you know purchase a shark shield for the tail of their board ( I spend a lot of time in the water!)


Never seen a shark whilst windsurfing,

Kent reserve is good SE and SW,

PS: Slim Jim sails Ezzy sails, so you will not be alone there,

viksta
viksta
69 posts
69 posts
1 Mar 2011 11:17am

Was just reviewing the shark sightings (I know, cliche for new visitors) seems Seaford, Henley, and Brighton are some pretty favourite nieghborhoods for our grey suited friends to hang around. Anyone you know purchase a shark shield for the tail of their board ( I spend a lot of time in the water!)


I spend a lot of time in the water too and they haven't gotten to me yet!
I am always after some in water company especially while I learn to gybe!! Hopefully you are fatter than me!!

See you on the water!
Dr Duck
Dr Duck
SA
450 posts
SA, 450 posts
2 Mar 2011 10:34am
Hi RudyForest,

Welcome to SA - I'm a Seacliiff local, I'll look for you on the water. I have a 19 on my sail.

I own a SharkShield, which I wear snorkelling along the cliffs at Marino. There is a lot of crap on the internet about these products - I feel sorry for the SA company that makes them. I saw a shark expert show on TV the other night - he demonstrated it by wrapping the antenna in coils around a big fish. Totally not how it works, RTFM. Luckily it kept the sharks from eating the fish, and the shark ripped the fish to bits once the device was removed. But another bit of junk science for TV. I think the evidence they reduce risk is good, and it's against the laws of physics for them to attract sharks from a distance.

Having said that, I tried it on a windsurfer once (it's the dive model that wraps around your calf), and it's more trouble than it is worth. The antenna flaps around behind you, will touch your back leg on at least one tack, and gets tangled in a crash. PM me if you want to have a look at it and try it out. But in the end, I rate windsurfing as low risk activity so it's not worth sweating over.

Regards, Richard
Riverhack
Riverhack
1 posts
1 posts
2 Mar 2011 8:31am
If you go to Milang or Boggy Lake you should watch out for old farm barbed wire fences that were put out onto the dry lakebed to control stock during the drought. Not all farmers have pulled out these now semi-submerged fences. A friend of mine nearly killed himself when he came across one during the drought while riding a quad bike.

Here's the link: http://www.murrayfutures.sa.gov.au/news.php?ID=106
sharkbiscuit
sharkbiscuit
820 posts
820 posts
2 Mar 2011 7:42pm
Dr Duck said...

I think the evidence they reduce risk is good, and it's against the laws of physics for them to attract sharks from a distance.

This is a bloody interesting topic . I mate lent me a DVD called "Face to Face". It's a doco about great whites in Gulf of Vincent and Spencer. I learnt of a shark sensory system called the "Ampullae of Lorenzini".

The Ampullae of Lorenzini is a bunch of electric field detectors located on the sharks nose. They are used for a few things, but one of them is to detect electric fields produced by muscle movement (ie: heart). Here is an overview:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ampullae_of_Lorenzini

Basically the system detects DC or very slow changing electric fields by performing a voltage measurement across it's sensors. DC electric field energy being what it is, it will be localised - short range. These sensors are very sensitive. 5 nano volts (1 divided by 5 000 000 000) per centi metre according to the above source. That's a very sensitive multimeter !. This begs the question. How short is short ? - I'm still reading
Trousers
Trousers
SA
565 posts
SA, 565 posts
2 Mar 2011 10:59pm
sharkbiscuit said...
The Ampullae of Lorenzini is a bunch of electric field detectors located on the sharks nose. They are used for a few things, but one of them is to detect electric fields produced by muscle movement (ie: heart).


so i'm no rocket scientist, but i think you're telling me to strap 9v batteries to my wetsuit?
Dr Duck
Dr Duck
SA
450 posts
SA, 450 posts
3 Mar 2011 8:32am
Hi Jason,

Assuming Seaworld are a reliable source of information:

http://www.seaworld.org/infobooks/Sharks&Rays/senses.html

The sharks senses seem to be:
long range: smell
medium range: vibration
close range : eye sight
really close range: electric fields (the sense that gets swamped by the Shark Shield)

The Ampullae of Lorenzeni have the problem that electric fields drop off with the inverse of distance squared so they get weak very quickly as you move away. But you're the engineer, you might like to correct me on that one.

Cheers, Richard
sharkbiscuit
sharkbiscuit
820 posts
820 posts
3 Mar 2011 6:46am
Isn't it inverse roll off only ? (since you are measuring Volts not Joules ?). I'll have to do some reading. I agree, it would be very short range, but 5nV/cm is very sensitive voltage detector !. Note: I'm only tech in this field (pun), not a ginger beer
BIGKYM
BIGKYM
SA
127 posts
SA, 127 posts
3 Mar 2011 11:08pm
ive spent a lot off time in SA coastal waters "20yrs" and have been approached by a BIG Hammer head off Goolwa, and a few other wired creatures, but there's one place that gives me the “nervous shark feeling” that's North Haven for some reason.......

Bogan speed team
Bogan speed team
SA
407 posts
SA, 407 posts
4 Mar 2011 3:50pm
Hey Trousers,

You also need to strap on a 2nd pair of undies for when you sh#t yourself.

BigKym,

It might be the fact the channel the other side of the breakwater at North Haven is very deep and the big noahs might live there. Haven't seen any sharks there yet - hope not to. Can't wait for the winter northerlies
DaGodfather
DaGodfather
SA
280 posts
SA, 280 posts
4 Mar 2011 5:48pm
I don't know about the effectiveness of Shark Shield - it is belived that this man wore it when he was eaten.

www.abc.net.au/news/2011-02-21/no-remains-found-from-shark-victim/1951028

particularly read this part:
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Police are investigating if Mr Clarkson was wearing a shark shield safety device at the time of the attack. It emits an electrical wave to deter sharks.

The victim's friend Don Morrison has no doubt.

"I guarantee he would have been wearing it. I think he checked it was working all the time. I'm pretty sure he would have been wearing it," he said.
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apparently he also wrote in his forum that he was always wearing it when diving.

Of course, since his body was never recovered there is no 100% proof, but somehow I doubt he would have just forgotten to put it on that one time.

However - the good news for those who worry about sharks - there are none at Boggy and Milang!!!
sharkbiscuit
sharkbiscuit
820 posts
820 posts
4 Mar 2011 5:35pm
Carl: Speaking of undies, you know what Joe said about Semaphore and Boggy ?

DaGodfather: Except for those nasty microscopic killers, but Milang is good for those useless SE'er's. Bulk starboard side ramps

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