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geared4knots
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26 Aug 2014 4:09pm
Maybe want be long and this will be the case here::


"Hi. I thought this info in The West Australian 25/08/2014, was of some importance to you .

<div>To quote: Kite & windsurfers must now carry safety equipment when more than 400m offshore.
<div>Rules to come in this month say they must have a lifejacket & carry either red or orange flares or an emergency positioning indicating radio beacon (EPIRB) or personal locating beacon (PLB) when between 400m & 3.7km from shore.
<div>From 3.7km to 9.2km, they need a lifejacket & an EPIRB. Any further out they must also carry parachute flares.
<div>The rules, endorsed by the WA Kite Surfing Association & Windsurfing WA, will be introduced because the sports are growing & participants are venturing further offshore. "

Kazza
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26 Aug 2014 4:49pm
When I'm going for distance on my own I'ld feel more secure carrying an EPIRB, was seriously thinking of taking my phone with me next time and will make sure I wear my bouyance vest & helmet as well. You just never know when something decides to break (gear or body), I'ld rather ere on the side of caution. A big lesson I've learnt from past experiences.
Jimmy b
Jimmy b
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26 Aug 2014 8:07pm
Any reasonable person is able to make informed decisions about risk. Therefor it is there own choice and personal risk management whether or not or to what degree of safety precautions they decide to take, we are responsible for our own safety, at the end of the day. I don't believe we need to be enforced in any way, I windsurf mainly because of the freedom, things like this deter from that greatly IMO, I prefer my boardies and mad hueys T.
geared4knots
geared4knots
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26 Aug 2014 10:54pm
James i totally agree with what you say but..
unfortunatelly the marine police dont!!., Just like some boaties think they should not have to wear lifejackets.
In Bicheno this last summer many people where fined becaused of the new SUP laws and life jackets, no exceptions.
They ( marine police)did not listen to people beliefs/rights... they just handed out the tickets.
//
Perhaps we should contact our MAST and ask if there are any planned changes? or is this going to draw attention?

pain in the arse , i agree!!!
I Know most of my sailing, is within shoreline distance anyway


Relic
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27 Aug 2014 9:03am
Opportunity knocks...a "Rad" more importantly practical version of a PFD is needed to fit the "Cool" image of some watersports . It was pointed out on this forum that the safety equipment available presented a safety risk! It could tangle the user in the windsurf or kite gear. Stormy came up with a design that boaters wanted to wear. They are now nearly exclusively worn.
Pains Wessex make a compact flare for aviators "Mini Flare 3" PLB's have become affordable.
Unfortunately we live in a "Nanna" Society. No one is responsible for themselves and common sense is much rarer. There is no turning the clock back.
The Police will fine people as they have a lot interstate. A cynic would suggest another means of revenue. Of course not our paternalistic masters are only trying to save us from ourselves. Next a legislator concerned with our welfare will make unsafe manouvre laws. No looping or jumping. In control gybing only! No speed above 35Knots. Watch out they'll have radar guns out at your favourite speed sailing spot!
appleman
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27 Aug 2014 9:35am
This thread has obviously been written out of pure boredom,it has no place in Tasmanian windsurfing forrums,unless that's what you want to happen, so bad luck to Western Aus, but don't even let the establishment know about it,,,,,,,,,,, bring the wind, not the rant that happens in other states, you could talk about double demerit points for speeding, or texting when driving, much better than windsurfing safety stupidity.
Relic
Relic
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27 Aug 2014 10:36am
appleman said..
This thread has obviously been written out of pure boredom,it has no place in Tasmanian windsurfing forrums,unless that's what you want to happen, so bad luck to Western Aus, but don't even let the establishment know about it,,,,,,,,,,, bring the wind, not the rant that happens in other states, you could talk about double demerit points for speeding, or texting when driving, much better than windsurfing safety stupidity.


Appleman. You can stick your head in the sand. The five blokes that drowned at Partridge Island 15 years ago prompting Life Jacket laws would probably be alive if they had safety gear. Sure they were irresponsible fools. They paid with their lives. Will a SUP paddler come to grief paddling in open water without at minimum an EPIRB? Let's hope not.
If you think the legislators in our State don't know about WA laws you are naive. Yes you are correct about "The Rant" in WA; unconstructive.
Having been in a "dodgy" situation recently with unsailabe gear, a K offshore, My situation would have been far better with a means of drawing attention to myself. As it turned out I self rescued. Dumb luck this time. Next time I'm offshore I'll have the right gear. COMMON SENSE.
Unfortunately it's a rare commodity and the lowest common denominator governs rules and regulations.
Lets enjoy the freedom we have for now. The Laws will come some time.
Water-sport enthusiasts can prolong introduction of draconian legislation by applying common sense; anticipate problems with appropriate equipment and safe practices.
Bring on the wind!



appleman
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27 Aug 2014 11:19am
Partridge island five blokes on windsurfers, don't think so,would have known them. As you said common sense, are we talking boats or windsurfers ????? If you need safety gear wear it ,I do, common sense not law,. Boat laws best thing to happen .windsurfing law is the day I give up, hard enough listening to the LOCAL LAW, you know who you are.
Kazza
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27 Aug 2014 12:11pm
geared4knots said..
James i totally agree with what you say but..
unfortunatelly the marine police dont!!., Just like some boaties think they should not have to wear lifejackets.
In Bicheno this last summer many people where fined becaused of the new SUP laws and life jackets, no exceptions.
They ( marine police)did not listen to people beliefs/rights... they just handed out the tickets.
//
Perhaps we should contact our MAST and ask if there are any planned changes? or is this going to draw attention?

pain in the arse , i agree!!!
I Know most of my sailing, is within shoreline distance anyway




Damo I think keep it quite, it will make them start thinking. Some people here don't even know there are windsurfers here. I agree, if you want to take precautions it's up to the individual, it's not like we're out there taking up valuable police time/money getting rescued all the time.
AUS02
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29 Aug 2014 8:00am
Not too often, anyway ...
FoS
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29 Aug 2014 4:36pm
appleman said..
Partridge island five blokes on windsurfers, don't think so,would have known them. As you said common sense, are we talking boats or windsurfers ????? If you need safety gear wear it ,I do, common sense not law,. Boat laws best thing to happen .windsurfing law is the day I give up, hard enough listening to the LOCAL LAW, you know who you are.


Shhhhh, no one knows veitzy
MatStirl
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1 Sep 2014 11:27pm
AUS02 said..
Not too often, anyway ...


Hey guys.

lifejacket and marine laws can vary a lot from state to state. In Qld even kids don't have to wear lifejackets in boats over 4.8m. My kids only wear them in rough conditions on our 6.5m yacht. we have taken the radical step of teaching them to swim.
When I tell Qld locals adults have to wear them in Tas they can't believe it. Less extreme weather in nth qld mind you.

i remember swimming off my boat in cremorne lagoon and having to put a lifejacket back on after getting back onto safety of boat. weird.

i get on the water to get away from regulation. I cringe everytime some dope gets themself in trouble on the water because it can only lead to more regulation.

regards,
Mat Stirling
Flouro1
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1 Sep 2014 10:15pm
Australia the Nanny state bring back bolt on
1300 hp rocket fuelled diffs that you
could buy from a car spares shop
for $200 in the USA in the 1960s
which legally turned any car into a
200/300km dragracer and .08 legal
Limit ,no seatbelts ,guns
Arrr the good old days
azzzza
azzzza
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19 Sep 2014 9:47pm
What a load of crap, who wants to frig about with all that bull****, its bad enough carting all the gear about as it is, while im at it pushbike helmet laws suck as well, why dont they legislate something usefull like make it illegal for bogans to speak, or breed.
Relic
Relic
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20 Sep 2014 7:51am
What have bike helmets,bananas and morons got to do with windsurfing?
Relic
Relic
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20 Sep 2014 7:53am
Bloody spell check should have read; What do bike helmets, bogans, and morons have to do with windsurfing
geared4knots
geared4knots
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20 Sep 2014 8:26am
Busted!!.
SUP riders at Lauderdale beach..warnings by marine police last week while paddling around shallows of the point.
pfds must be when when on a SUP unless in the surf. $140 fine
regardless of distance from the shore
Relic
Relic
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20 Sep 2014 8:45am
What next floaties and sparklers for swimmers
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