Cliffy looked the goods today. I heard that guy giving you old blokes a heap of stick. I dont think he was refering to you guys sailing as being crap, more so he was trying to point out that Clifton encouraged you to look like you sailed like crap, because, even though there is heaps of waves you only sail backwards and forwards dropping of the back of waves without getting any real height. He was definately a full bogan but he made sense, I did like the way he tried to joke around so as not to hurt your feelings.....unfortunately it seems he did.