Armstrong A+ System

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hilly
hilly
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10 May 2021 1:49pm
longboard said..
Can anyone confirm what the A+ fuselage tail setting is without a shim...?

Is it -1* or 0*...?

Doesn't seem to be anything in the Armstrong literature...


Polycarbonate Pro Shims, allowing more than 5 angle settings at 0.5 degree increments, from -1 degree to + 1.5 degrees for the tweakers out there.

That would indicate that stock is -1
longboard
longboard
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180 posts
10 May 2021 4:01pm
Thanks Hilly.
That makes sense...
Now that you put it that way it seems obvious!!
eppo
eppo
WA
9793 posts
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10 May 2021 9:06pm
Pretty sure in that real water sports review in the first page of this thread he says it is set at -1.
Lago
Lago
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49 posts
10 May 2021 10:47pm
hilly said..

longboard said..
Can anyone confirm what the A+ fuselage tail setting is without a shim...?

Is it -1* or 0*...?

Doesn't seem to be anything in the Armstrong literature...



Polycarbonate Pro Shims, allowing more than 5 angle settings at 0.5 degree increments, from -1 degree to + 1.5 degrees for the tweakers out there.

That would indicate that stock is -1


So there is no shim to go -2 with the A+ Fuse?
hilly
hilly
WA
8131 posts
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11 May 2021 1:36am
Lago said..

hilly said..


longboard said..
Can anyone confirm what the A+ fuselage tail setting is without a shim...?

Is it -1* or 0*...?

Doesn't seem to be anything in the Armstrong literature...




Polycarbonate Pro Shims, allowing more than 5 angle settings at 0.5 degree increments, from -1 degree to + 1.5 degrees for the tweakers out there.

That would indicate that stock is -1



So there is no shim to go -2 with the A+ Fuse?


Not that I have seen.
Lago
Lago
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49 posts
11 May 2021 3:24am



KD Maui has some armstrong shims, that you can just download and print. Looks like two of them are negative. However it dose not say what the angle is.
How nice, that they are for free!
Pacey
Pacey
WA
527 posts
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11 May 2021 6:56am
Lago said..
KD Maui has some armstrong shims, that you can just download and print.


Link?
kiwiupover
kiwiupover
187 posts
187 posts
11 May 2021 8:40am
Pacey said..

Lago said..
KD Maui has some armstrong shims, that you can just download and print.



Link?

You can buy on this page, and he also has a link at the bottom of this page for the file... except as a new member i can't post links :-(
So try kdfoils.myshopify at dotcom
then go to
Shims - KDFOILS (myshopify.com)
then go to page 2 and find 'shims' to either buy or at the bottom of the page is a link to the file(s)
Pacey
Pacey
WA
527 posts
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11 May 2021 12:50pm
kiwiupover said..
You can buy on this page, and he also has a link at the bottom of this page for the file... except as a new member i can't post links :-(
So try kdfoils.myshopify at dotcom
then go to
Shims - KDFOILS (myshopify.com)
then go to page 2 and find 'shims' to either buy or at the bottom of the page is a link to the file(s)


Got them, nice.




foilthegreats
foilthegreats
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809 posts
14 May 2021 1:39am
I've gone through the process of upgrading my HS850,HS1050,HS1250 and HS1850 along with 72cm and 100cm masts to be A+. Using the jig kit. It was a painless upgrade and basically well detailed in the Armstrong video. Only additional tip would be to thoroughly clean all the fittings after the upgrade is complete to ensure a smooth assembly and disassembly of the foil.
MidAtlanticFoil
MidAtlanticFoil
858 posts
858 posts
14 May 2021 4:07am
foilthegreats said..
I've gone through the process of upgrading my HS850,HS1050,HS1250 and HS1850 along with 72cm and 100cm masts to be A+. Using the jig kit. It was a painless upgrade and basically well detailed in the Armstrong video. Only additional tip would be to thoroughly clean all the fittings after the upgrade is complete to ensure a smooth assembly and disassembly of the foil.


I upgraded all of mine a few weeks back. Just went to run the barrel nut on the top of my 1850 and it was off a few mm. I have no idea how I f*cked that up. I just filled it with some high quality marine epoxy filler so I can re-drill it on center to fit. I hope I don't find any more F-ups
Windoc
Windoc
460 posts
460 posts
14 May 2021 4:34am
I upgraded my masts and wings using the jig as well. The video instruction made it easy even for me. Just go slowly and make sure all parts are fully fitted before drilling. Happy with the result.
Foilnut
Foilnut
182 posts
182 posts
15 May 2021 12:55am
Drilled my 1850. Took my time and used water for lube. The larger 8 mm drill did tend to catch even with light pressure. I did start by going backwards. Maybe should have done a bit more. It broke off some of the carbon weave at the edge of the hole on the surface but that came out once the taper was put in. feels more solid

My 232 older tail does not have a great fit with the new A+ fuse. A+ fuse appears to be smaller dia as tail hangs out on both sides a bit. Not sure on impact of this?
longboard
longboard
180 posts
180 posts
1 Jun 2021 2:36pm
MidAtlanticFoil said..


foilthegreats said..
I've gone through the process of upgrading my HS850,HS1050,HS1250 and HS1850 along with 72cm and 100cm masts to be A+. Using the jig kit. It was a painless upgrade and basically well detailed in the Armstrong video. Only additional tip would be to thoroughly clean all the fittings after the upgrade is complete to ensure a smooth assembly and disassembly of the foil.




I upgraded all of mine a few weeks back. Just went to run the barrel nut on the top of my 1850 and it was off a few mm. I have no idea how I f*cked that up. I just filled it with some high quality marine epoxy filler so I can re-drill it on center to fit. I hope I don't find any more F-ups



Also just upgraded my 1850.
drilled the mast no problems...

then same thing happened with the top of the 1850 foil where the barrel nut goes - 1 to 2mm off Centre.
no idea how that happened either - especially after drilling the mast no problem!

just opened the overlapping side of the "off Centre" hole with the M8 drill & it seems to fit ok now. Just looks very slightly "non-factory"...oh well.

Now that i think of it - is it really necessary to be doing this upgrade?
I suspect not to be honest...

think I'll be leaving my 1250 just as is for now...
blueplanetsurf
blueplanetsurf
316 posts
316 posts
24 Jun 2021 3:40am
We just posted two videos going over the Armstrong foil range, this first is specifically for prone surf foiling, the second for wing foiling:



SeaSea
SeaSea
15 posts
15 posts
5 Jul 2021 9:58am
When drilling out the A+ third hole in other foils it is pretty easy to have the hole drift off center with a hand drill. I would use a drill press or run the medium size bit from the other side if I was doing it again.
MidAtlanticFoil
MidAtlanticFoil
858 posts
858 posts
6 Jul 2021 4:44am
Yeah I have a couple wings to refill with epoxy and retry
hilly
hilly
WA
8131 posts
WA, 8131 posts
6 Jul 2021 7:30am
Do you use the kit? Found it very easy, pilot hole though the hollow bolt with the other bolt done up. Everything lined up perfectly.
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