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Ensis Score too powerful, too big foil or do I need harness?

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Created by Sideshore 3 months ago, 27 Nov 2023
Sideshore
270 posts
27 Nov 2023 3:31AM
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Hi
I have as big wing an Ensis Score 5,2 for light winds (10-16 knots). However I feel it too powerful when I use it in 13-14 knots and more. I weigh 70 kg and use a 1500 cm2 front foil. I close the wing very rarely with the second handle, never at the end of this handle. My shoulders are not very well because of many years of wavesailing. Is this wing too powerful for me? Do I have to reduce the foil size or use harness?

Maybe I'm used to go very slowly and I have to close the wing more, improving my control, by reducing foil size.

Thks

marco
WA, 314 posts
27 Nov 2023 9:28AM
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ENSIS are powerful that's why I use them. Harness helps definitely. also going down in wing size as you are light. maybe 4.2 score or 4.1 spin.

Grantmac
1943 posts
27 Nov 2023 10:13AM
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That's a very big foil for your weight.

Sideshore
270 posts
29 Nov 2023 4:54AM
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Grantmac said..
That's a very big foil for your weight.


With an smaller foil, you feel less power from the wing?

Grantmac
1943 posts
29 Nov 2023 12:50PM
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In my experience a more efficient foil results in less pull from the wing.

ZeeGerman
266 posts
30 Nov 2023 10:48PM
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The Scores are indeed very powerful and a reason to love them. A friend of mine is about your weight and sold his 5,2 as he found it useful only in very marginal conditions. Like you he found it to be a handfull once the wind picked up only a little.
At 85 to 90 kilos I have a range of scores from 4.5 down to 2.8 and I don't feel I need any bigger. Frantic pumping gets me on the foil in about 10 knots with a 1500 Fluid XL, one foil size bigger or smaller makes it one knot less or two knots more that I need.
I guess in 13-14 knots a 4m Score would easily be enough for you.

Windoc
374 posts
1 Dec 2023 12:05AM
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I owned a Takuma WK 5.2 which was very similar to the Ensis. I'm 90 kgs and found it to be getting pretty spicy in the high teens and plenty in 14/15 knots. 12 knots was perfect. They pull like trucks. Drop a foil size or two, smaller wing, and you'll enjoy it more.

Taavi
192 posts
1 Dec 2023 2:48AM
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Scores are powerful, just use a smaller size if overpowered. Here's an example of a day where I (72 kg) am using a 3.5, while another guy riding in this clip (85 kg) is happily on a 5.2.

JohnnyDepp
33 posts
2 Dec 2023 1:39AM
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5.2 is not too big for you.

I had used Scores for almost two years (75 kg).

4.0 - a very average wing in 15+ conditions. Duotone's SLSes are much better in strong wind.
5.2 - one of the best wings for light wind from 11 up to 20 knots of base (yep, 20 knots is still ok, stronger gusts fine too)
6.2 - for almost no-wind conditions, 9 knots with my Axis 1050 an from 7 knots with Naish 2000

4.0 and 5.2 have been replaced by Duotone SLSes this year. I still use 6.2. Will get North Pro 7 for the next season in the med.

Sideshore
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2 Dec 2023 3:59AM
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JohnnyDepp said..
5.2 is not too big for you.

I had used Scores for almost two years (75 kg).

4.0 - a very average wing in 15+ conditions. Duotone's SLSes are much better in strong wind.
5.2 - one of the best wings for light wind from 11 up to 20 knots of base (yep, 20 knots is still ok, stronger gusts fine too)
6.2 - for almost no-wind conditions, 9 knots with my Axis 1050 an from 7 knots with Naish 2000

4.0 and 5.2 have been replaced by Duotone SLSes this year. I still use 6.2. Will get North Pro 7 for the next season in the med.


Thanks all. I see you are against the rest of the opinions. How do you manage to stand 20 knots with the 5,2 at your weight? Smaller foil? Do you inflate it at the lowest limit (6 psi) or less for strong wind? Harness? Are you Arnold Schwarzenegger ?

ZeeGerman
266 posts
3 Dec 2023 9:23PM
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Of course you can hold on to a Score 5,2 in 20 knots. It just depends on what you want and how you sail. The 5,2 makes a very nice umbrella for Mary Poppins in this sort of wind and, yes, it can be done. You can even go bigger if that's your cup of tea.
Personally, anything from 20 knots up is Score 2,8 for me but most people would go 3,5ish and some are out on their 4s beacuase they don't own anything smaller.

Sideshore
270 posts
4 Dec 2023 2:47AM
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And regarding the wingspan of the Ensis, my height is 1,70 m and the ensis score 5,2 has around 348 cm wingspan. This disturbs me touching water and board when pumping. Is this normal because of my height or my injured shoulders don't allow me to lift the score higher to prevent dipping it on pumping.



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