Velocicraptor said..

PeterP said..
Turning not as good as Kujira but on a wing it is super fun as the speed and glide is next level.

Which Kujira are you comparing to? The dims don't look like anything I've seen from Takuma yet.

Would be really interesting to get a comparison between Eagle 790 / Cabrinha H Series 800 / Lift 120 HA. Fairly similar on paper (775-800 area, 9.5-10.2 AR), but I'm curious about the ride nuances.

Kujira 750

Slyde said..
Rode it in the flats a couple days ago on 85cm mast then today in 1/2 m swells on 95cm HM mast.

How much better are the HM masts compared to the V1 carbon mast and the Alu mast?

Eagle 1090 Review

I have just changed from Axis ART series over to this brand/line-up. I was previously frustrated adjustments to make the ART series work - these foils are a good intermediate and entry level foil, but the better I got, the more I was noticing more issues. When really pushing the 799 I was often hesitant, as I knew at any point over 45kph the foil could just explode and often did. Tearing countless wings in spectacular crashes. Or when really banking a hard turn or going fast, the front wing tips would flex, this felt unsettled and not smooth.
I often felt I had to change down in foil size to get comfortable, and have experienced my fair share of swims after falling off too small a foil.

I've now been riding the Eagle for a good few sessions and am totally blown away, riding this foil with a 4'0 x 44L board and the 95HM mast. Initially this was bought as just a super light wind option, but I've carried this quite high in the range and never felt over powered ( c. 25-30knots).

This foil ticks every single box for me, and I've seen it prove itself in super light conditions - when I'm the only person on foil and very comfortably powered, able to still sail around when everyone is still floating. The height is unreal, the winglets let you really point hard, I've sailed in a very cruisy low mode beneath other riders and climbed well above, pointing much higher.

Glide is superb and I have no issues. A test of mine has been to historically try and pump back to the beach through a 500m+wind shadow. I often could get some distance, but would swim most of the way on the ART, I've never had to swim on the Eagle.

Speed is unreal, this foil is so balanced, I'm still adjusting to it all.
As mentioned I would be cautious when above 20 knots on the ART, as I knew at any point I could explode the foil. I previously tried -1 tail shim, speed tails and coke can strips on the front wing. But felt you fix one problem and sacrifice something else.
The Eagle just holds on, you can just keep pushing and pushing with nothing to fear, I'm now hitting very similar speeds to the 799 on a much bigger foil.

The liveliness is another huge perk, how responsive it feels is amazing, and yet I can still feel like I'm riding my surf skate. I can throw big turns, and I know I'll always be fine.

All in all, this foil is great - It is expensive in Aus, but I can't fault it. I spent much more on band-aids and trying the next latest foil to be equally let down or chasing a solution to new problems. I will look at getting a 790 soon, but for now, I'm having a blast!

King Crash said..
When really pushing the 799 I was often hesitant, as I knew at any point over 45kph the foil could just explode and often did. Tearing countless wings in spectacular crashes.

Is it the front wing that was creating turbulence? Me
it was the mast, when i was startinf to see a large band of whitewater behind my mast.i knew i would soon have a great % that the foil will fall down the sky! Often upwind with close chop to each other.

Had 2 sessions on the Eagle 1090 and the 890. I'm impressed.

The thing that stood out for me the most was how accessible these foils are.
From all the high aspect foils I've tested (most of the known brands) these high aspect foils are the most user friendly.
I tried these on new boards that I haven't ridden before without any special setup. Low stall speed so no weird drops while
trying to get up.

I got the 890 on a sinker board (60 Liter for my 88kg) so had to do a water start with a 3.5M Strike V2. 15-25knots was enough
to get up on the gust and fly. I deliberately rode it as slow as possible but to see what is the low end and it's pretty impressive.

Thatspec said..
Anyway, can't demo F-one products in North America's windsports mecca, the local dealer has declined my inquiries

PM me. I'm leaving tomorrow evening but wind forecast looks good for tomorrow so we can meet and you'll
be able to demo my eagle 1090. I have a 75 F-one aluminum mast so that should answer all your questions.

Thatspec said..
Apologies if this is common knowledge or discussed earlier...

Anyone know the thickness of the F-one aluminum mast? I'm just curious if it's even remotely as stiff as an Axis 19mm, could probably have an adapter made and I already own it. I see the HM carbon is about 14.5mm which is the equivalent of the original Axis carbon (but no $1.5K masts thanks).

I was just looking over and flexing various parts on an Eagle 1090 and along with the reviews here I'm impressed enough to demo one. I'd be interested in the 990 / 85cm, and this 1090 at the shop was attached to the 105cm HM carbon so I'd assume the system I'm interested in would have that much more of a solid feel. Frankly, the stuff is so light it's a little scary.

Anyway, can't demo F-one products in North America's windsports mecca, the local dealer has declined my inquiries

As luck would have it there's an F-one demo center down the street from where I spend much of the winter, I'm sure they'll be happy to take my two grand and with the euro at par it looks like nearly 400 bucks savings over US pricing.

I tried the Eagle 990 alu mast and it flexed. It's not as thick or stiff as the axis 19mm mast

Thanks. I have a habit of starting at the bottom of the post when I should be at the top.

burchas said..

Thatspec said..
Anyway, can't demo F-one products in North America's windsports mecca, the local dealer has declined my inquiries

PM me. I'm leaving tomorrow evening but wind forecast looks good for tomorrow so we can meet and you'll
be able to demo my eagle 1090. I have a 75 F-one aluminum mast so that should answer all your questions.

Too bad about the wind today Burchas, the forest fire smoke just killed the heating. The forecasts have so far been unable to compensate for the new normal. Thanks! I'll get a ride on one in couple of months in Fuerte, these guys have a nice setup (and webcam), lineupwebstore.com/
Corralejo is kinda tacky but the sea is Azure and the North shore pumps big bumps all winter, have to use a 5.0 a lot though, Northern hemi summer is the windy season.

King Crash said..

Eagle 1090 Review

I have just changed from Axis ART series over to this brand/line-up. I was previously frustrated adjustments to make the ART series work - these foils are a good intermediate and entry level foil, but the better I got, the more I was noticing more issues. When really pushing the 799 I was often hesitant, as I knew at any point over 45kph the foil could just explode and often did. Tearing countless wings in spectacular crashes. Or when really banking a hard turn or going fast, the front wing tips would flex, this felt unsettled and not smooth.

I often felt I had to change down in foil size to get comfortable, and have experienced my fair share of swims after falling off too small a foil.

I've now been riding the Eagle for a good few sessions and am totally blown away, riding this foil with a 4'0 x 44L board and the 95HM mast. Initially this was bought as just a super light wind option, but I've carried this quite high in the range and never felt over powered ( c. 25-30knots).

This foil ticks every single box for me, and I've seen it prove itself in super light conditions - when I'm the only person on foil and very comfortably powered, able to still sail around when everyone is still floating. The height is unreal, the winglets let you really point hard, I've sailed in a very cruisy low mode beneath other riders and climbed well above, pointing much higher.

Glide is superb and I have no issues. A test of mine has been to historically try and pump back to the beach through a 500m+wind shadow. I often could get some distance, but would swim most of the way on the ART, I've never had to swim on the Eagle.

Speed is unreal, this foil is so balanced, I'm still adjusting to it all.

As mentioned I would be cautious when above 20 knots on the ART, as I knew at any point I could explode the foil. I previously tried -1 tail shim, speed tails and coke can strips on the front wing. But felt you fix one problem and sacrifice something else.

The Eagle just holds on, you can just keep pushing and pushing with nothing to fear, I'm now hitting very similar speeds to the 799 on a much bigger foil.

The liveliness is another huge perk, how responsive it feels is amazing, and yet I can still feel like I'm riding my surf skate. I can throw big turns, and I know I'll always be fine.

All in all, this foil is great - It is expensive in Aus, but I can't fault it. I spent much more on band-aids and trying the next latest foil to be equally let down or chasing a solution to new problems. I will look at getting a 790 soon, but for now, I'm having a blast!

I read your review with great interest as I am an Axis ART fan and have 899, 799 and 699 with 325p stab on advanced fuselage with 90cm HM mast.
What stabiliser did you use?
I also know a guy who is 120kg and has the 1099 and frequently does over 20kn to I think his maximum is 25kn with none of the issues you had.

I meant what stabiliser with the Axis ARTs?

So has anyone tried the 2 new Eagle sizes especially the 1290?

Surprised very little chat about those amazing foils. Hands down the best HA foils at the moment.

Hi, thinking about cut the winglets of my 890, someone here have done that? Trying to get some review about that, also where and how to cut.??

chainclaudio said..
Hi, thinking about cut the winglets of my 890, someone here have done that? Trying to get some review about that, also where and how to cut.??

But why?

chainclaudio said..
Hi, thinking about cut the winglets of my 890, someone here have done that? Trying to get some review about that, also where and how to cut.??

You can cut off the winglet where the white paint is. This is all solid carbon.

I would echo others here - don't do it. But do whatever you want, it's your foil.