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Sabfoil Razor Pro with Piuma Mast

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Created by BenMaz Two weeks ago, 11 Feb 2024
BenMaz
WA, 20 posts
11 Feb 2024 8:01AM
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I was lucky enough to trial the Sabfoil Razor Pro Kit yesterday. Here are my key takeaways for anyone considering this foil or looking for a foil for fast free ride, exciting downwinders or carving waves at high speeds.
The first thing you'll notice is the build quality and weight. The mast, fuse, wings and hardware have all been designed with stiffness and strength in mind, whilst optimising weight. You can really feel this light weight design on the water. I have been using the Razor Pro 825 front wing with the F652P fuse, the Flat 325 stab and the 86 Piuma High Modulus mast. For a 746cm2 wing it was surprisingly easy to get onto the foil in 13knts of wind on a 5.5m wing with just a few pumps. Once on the foil, the apparent wind and the glide keeps you going through the lulls. A few pumps through lightwind gybes keeps you easily on the foil. As well as the amazing glide, I was impressed by the quick carving speeds and tight angles. This makes it really fun and fast for playing around in smaller waves. I found that the mast felt less "draggy" than the M83K mast that I've been using so far and the acceleration considerably faster. Upwind and downwind angles felt good and it was easy to lock the foil in to drive upwind as speed. So far, no negatives. I will post more info after testing in stronger winds.

ActionSportsWA
WA, 944 posts
11 Feb 2024 12:10PM
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To add to Ben's review, I've been riding the Razor pro kit for over a couple of months now and although excited by its arrival, I had it pegged as a high performance surf foil for bigger waves and towing in. It wasn't until I tried it downwinding which is my main (see only) Jam, that I found out there is much more to this beautiful little weapon. The high modulus carbon madt and all the Titanium fittings gives increased strength and stiffness whilst reducing weight. The weight came off of the thickness of the chord. This is a very thin (fast and low drag) mast which when coupled to the thin profile of the Razor Pro 875 and 325 flat stab gives absolutely unparalleled speed and incredibly low drag which offer me, the downwinder, insane glide and speed with incredibly snappy fast turns that don't seem to dissipate the glide.My almost 100kg has been searching for a foil that would glide like the lightweights riders and happy to say, I've finally found it. I can glide (with the odd couple of pumps now and then to overtake a wave in front) almost the entire downwind run without engaging the wing. In fact, on one particular wing I got shoulder cramps from holding the wing above my head for so long so I could see for the whole run. So impressive is this foil that although SABFoil have added a larger Razor Pro front wing, but i'm questioning whether in fact it will offer me anything more than the 875 does already. This is truly a work of art and design that is so good, it needs to be ridden to truly appreciate it. DM ??

Grantmac
1941 posts
12 Feb 2024 11:33AM
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I'm curious about the area on this and how it compares with the Medusa?

Taavi
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12 Feb 2024 6:15PM
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Grantmac said..
I'm curious about the area on this and how it compares with the Medusa?


Which Medusa?

You can find the technical details and compare these with other models at sabfoil's page: sabfoil.com/en/compare





BritWinger
97 posts
12 Feb 2024 8:16PM
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What is the low end like of the 975 + 875?

I currently have the 780 and 980. The 980 is great for SUP foil and ultra lightwind winging with a DW board. I'd like something with good low end but a bit turnier than the 980.

So either the 880, 875 or 975. I'm thinking that the 880 is the way to go, but maybe one of the Pro's might have that low-end I'm after. I would have thought that the 975 is equivalent to an 880, but won't turn as well?

ps I just saw one of the new Armstrong HA's, and they are a very close copy of the normal Razors, with their high-lift cambered profile.

BenMaz
WA, 20 posts
13 Feb 2024 7:26PM
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BritWinger said..
What is the low end like of the 975 + 875?

I currently have the 780 and 980. The 980 is great for SUP foil and ultra lightwind winging with a DW board. I'd like something with good low end but a bit turnier than the 980.

So either the 880, 875 or 975. I'm thinking that the 880 is the way to go, but maybe one of the Pro's might have that low-end I'm after. I would have thought that the 975 is equivalent to an 880, but won't turn as well?

ps I just saw one of the new Armstrong HA's, and they are a very close copy of the normal Razors, with their high-lift cambered profile.


Can't talk to the 875 but the 825 has an amazingly low stall speed for the size of the wing and an incredible low end. I'm 78kg and I can get going in 13knts on a 5.5m Unit

BenMaz
WA, 20 posts
18 Feb 2024 9:50AM
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Another test of this set up in slightly stronger conditions. Amazing glide and very responsive. You can really feel the lighter weight of the set up under your feet. I would strongly recommend hitting up your local dealer for a test run. I have now added the 825 to my quiver. Thanks to Action Sports WA for letting me try several options to ensure I made the right choice for me. #Superstars.






NicoDC
200 posts
19 Feb 2024 5:32AM
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Any feedback on the old razor (820) vs the pro?

Rolavi
15 posts
19 Feb 2024 9:42PM
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Thanks for the reviews. New sabfoil Reviews Hard to come by. I placed an order for the RP 875/975 and 86 piuma a few weeks back. Hoping to get the foils here in USA before summer starts. Keep this thread alive with more feedback.

BenMaz
WA, 20 posts
Sunday , 25 Feb 2024 8:41AM
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Rolavi said..
Thanks for the reviews. New sabfoil Reviews Hard to come by. I placed an order for the RP 875/975 and 86 piuma a few weeks back. Hoping to get the foils here in USA before summer starts. Keep this thread alive with more feedback.


Excellent. Keen to hear your impressions

BenMaz
WA, 20 posts
Sunday , 25 Feb 2024 8:42AM
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NicoDC said..
Any feedback on the old razor (820) vs the pro?


I haven't tried the old one but spoken to someone who has and night and day from a performance perspective. The pro finish makes a huge difference.

BritWinger
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Monday , 26 Feb 2024 1:19AM
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BenMaz said..

NicoDC said..
Any feedback on the old razor (820) vs the pro?



I haven't tried the old one but spoken to someone who has and night and day from a performance perspective. The pro finish makes a huge difference.


Just the finish, or the new Pro version with thinner profile?



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