Wing foil racing...

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shi thouse
shi thouse
WA
1159 posts
WA, 1159 posts
13 Sep 2021 3:12pm
The speed of the black wing is impressive...will be good to see where racing goes over here in Oz.

mcrt
mcrt
643 posts
643 posts
13 Sep 2021 6:14pm
I would like to see Upwind/Downwind races instead of slalom.I think it would help develop gear more suited to what i do when i wing.

But maybe it does not matter, probably the biggest factor in top speed is foil size,aspect ratio and profile thickness.And Aluula wings will probably be the standard in races soon.

IMHO race winning foils will become very close to kite foils and require lots of skill to get up on foil with a wing.

I think Gong's designer son won a wing race in France using a foil from their kite range.Of course he is super skilled and lightweight.
Grantmac
Grantmac
2388 posts
2388 posts
13 Sep 2021 10:54pm
I would like to see an upwind/downwind race as well. The ability to tack on the foil and pump dead downwind would make for a very interesting format.
greg87foil
greg87foil
145 posts
145 posts
13 Sep 2021 11:05pm
how are those duck jibes from the guy in the front!
mcrt
mcrt
643 posts
643 posts
14 Sep 2021 1:53am
greg87foil said..
how are those duck jibes from the guy in the front!



They seem to use this duckjibe variation a lot in races,instead of pivoting the wing on the back hand they pivot on the front.Sometimes they switch feet first,sometimes after.

I have pulled a couple but the timing is tricky for me,i screw them up most times :)

Johny Heineken does them beautifully.



Jethrow
Jethrow
NSW
1282 posts
NSW, 1282 posts
14 Sep 2021 7:15am
I guess it depends on the speed you carry through the gybe. When most of us us mere mortals gybe we go through with near zero apparent breeze. He's really hooking into it so it's feasible that the apparent wind is actually coming from in front of him. It's actually an apparent wind tack even though it's a true wind gybe?
LeeD
LeeD
3939 posts
3939 posts
14 Sep 2021 5:17am
Switching feet just as they enter the jibe.
simonp
simonp
216 posts
216 posts
14 Sep 2021 5:43am
I'm pretty sure that is Johnny Heineken at the front, he has a definite speed edge. It would be very interesting to look at his foil setup. he probably has multiple options depending on whether it is with or against tide, and slalom versus course racing.
Gorgo
Gorgo
VIC
5125 posts
VIC, 5125 posts
14 Sep 2021 7:51am
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greg87foil
greg87foil
145 posts
145 posts
16 Sep 2021 12:14am
Jethrow said..
I guess it depends on the speed you carry through the gybe. When most of us us mere mortals gybe we go through with near zero apparent breeze. He's really hooking into it so it's feasible that the apparent wind is actually coming from in front of him. It's actually an apparent wind tack even though it's a true wind gybe?


Yeah it looks like he has so much speed going into the Jibe that the apparent wind comes from his front. I tried it yesterday, doable, but timing and enough speed are key. Johnny's are beautifully executed.

Nice "trick" to work on
simonp
simonp
216 posts
216 posts
17 Sep 2021 6:00am
This is a nice video showing Johnny Heineken's transitions in slo-mo:
greg87foil
greg87foil
145 posts
145 posts
18 Sep 2021 2:27am
that is an amazing video, thanks for sharing. such effortless style
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