Boat drift launch

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choicey
choicey
QLD
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3 Aug 2007 2:22am
In the search for new thrills we have started kiting the back if the islands from a boat.
Due to the set up out there in 4-5m swell and 20 -30kn our options to launch are limited.
Well there are 2, bring the boat in through the reef an anchor in a channel, then swim ashore , rig on a dodgy beach and tack up wind to the break,
Or anchor outside the reef and boat launch.
Obviously “Going in ” is full on and requires good knowledge and boatmanship the risks in the seas off the rector but can be worth it.

The safest way seems to be deep boat launch “out back” launch up wind of the break with small kites and a surfboard kite down through the waves and have the boat meet up down wind. This too is still full on .
We usually use the bucket it works fine but is a pain to set up and stow.
So anyway I finally decided to get a Turbo Launcher.

I have used the Turbo Launcher many time now but just practicing on the beach.
It all works well on the beach, just like the promo on the TL website.
However, I do have a couple of reservations about using it off a boat in high wind and seas.
If anyone has used TL in this sort of weather I would love to hear your methods. or any other method you may have.
cRAZY Canuk
cRAZY Canuk
NSW
2528 posts
NSW, 2528 posts
3 Aug 2007 9:40am
If you go on the San Francisco Bay Area kiteboarding site you could put a post up there about using the TL. I'm pretty sure thats what they use when they do boat launches for the Farilon SF bay runs.

If you don't kow what the Farilons are it's a seal colony off they coast of California where a bunch of whities hang out.

The only other suggestion that I could think of is set your kite up on the beach and wrap the lines around the bar like your doing a self rescue. Then pump the kite up on the boat and let the lines out while the kite drifts away. Not sure if this is a plausable idea but you never know.
SurfConnect
SurfConnect
QLD
1674 posts
QLD, 1674 posts
3 Aug 2007 10:32am
Watch the video clips and thoroughly learn the ins and outs. You are doing the right thing, practise as many times as you can on the beach, then perhaps at thigh deep water. Once you have mastered it (which normally takes 5-6 times), launching is a piece of cake, whether on the beach or water. Not only it saves so much time but you never have to walk your lines again!

The clips can be found here: http://www.surfconnect.com/html/Shop/kiting/Accessories/TurboLaunchers.htm

Any questions feel free to PM.
simonmm
simonmm
QLD
200 posts
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3 Aug 2007 12:21pm
There seems to be two common ways that you can undertake this (sans Turbo Launcher). Both ways first involve fully rigging your kite on a beach somewhere. This is to ensure that the lines are connected to the kite without any twists. Keep the lines connected to the kite then wrap up the lines as per normal. This will enable you to inflate the kite and unwind the lines from the boat without any twist between the bar and kite. Once you get offshore to where you want to launch, it is handy to determine if there is much current running.

If there is not much current, the safest method is to inflate the kite from the boat. Get someone to hold the kite in the boat in readiness to launch it whilst you swim out with the bar unwinding the lines as you go. When you are happy that you are in a good launch position and the lines are clear and untwisted, launch the kite.

If there is current (particularly if the boat is in a channel or something), then it can sometimes be really difficult to swim into position to launch the kite. If this is the case then you can inflate the kite, throw it in the water and feed out line as the kite drifts off. When the lines are taught and untwisted jump in the water with your board and launch your kite as per any regular water launch. A couple of tips with this method. If your kite has a fifth line or flagging line, it is handy to make sure that this line is shorter when you prerigged your kite on shore. This will enable your kite to drift downwind without excessive pull. Also, be super careful when unwinding your lines as the kite can unexpectedly launch causing an absolute ton of trouble. It is best to drift and unwind the lines from a duckboard at the rear of a boat so that if the kite does go nuts you will be dragged into the water, not smashed around the boat. Finally, I definately would recommend launching the kite from in the water, not in the boat as a stuffed up launch will cause you and the boat to both get damaged.

4-5m swell with 30 knots would definately provide an interesting environment for a boat launch. Make sure you practice heaps before heading out.
choicey
choicey
QLD
280 posts
QLD, 280 posts
3 Aug 2007 3:39pm
quote:
Originally posted by simonmm

There seems to be two common ways that you can undertake this (sans Turbo Launcher). Both ways first involve fully rigging your kite on a beach somewhere. This is to ensure that the lines are connected to the kite without any twists. Keep the lines connected to the kite then wrap up the lines as per normal. This will enable you to inflate the kite and unwind the lines from the boat without any twist between the bar and kite. Once you get offshore to where you want to launch, it is handy to determine if there is much current running.

If there is not much current, the safest method is to inflate the kite from the boat. Get someone to hold the kite in the boat in readiness to launch it whilst you swim out with the bar unwinding the lines as you go. When you are happy that you are in a good launch position and the lines are clear and untwisted, launch the kite.

If there is current (particularly if the boat is in a channel or something), then it can sometimes be really difficult to swim into position to launch the kite. If this is the case then you can inflate the kite, throw it in the water and feed out line as the kite drifts off. When the lines are taught and untwisted jump in the water with your board and launch your kite as per any regular water launch. A couple of tips with this method. If your kite has a fifth line or flagging line, it is handy to make sure that this line is shorter when you prerigged your kite on shore. This will enable your kite to drift downwind without excessive pull. Also, be super careful when unwinding your lines as the kite can unexpectedly launch causing an absolute ton of trouble. It is best to drift and unwind the lines from a duckboard at the rear of a boat so that if the kite does go nuts you will be dragged into the water, not smashed around the boat. Finally, I definately would recommend launching the kite from in the water, not in the boat as a stuffed up launch will cause you and the boat to both get damaged.

4-5m swell with 30 knots would definately provide an interesting environment for a boat launch. Make sure you practice heaps before heading out.

I do appreciate the input Simon, over the years we have tried most methods, the options you mention are not realistic for us, I don’t care too much about the kite , but I do want to keep my fingers.
I would like to know what the roughest conditions are that people are boat launching in and got away with it.

Like I said the TL works fine , so does the bucket and a few other methods in, upto about 20kn and less than 3m swell.



harry potter
harry potter
VIC
2777 posts
VIC, 2777 posts
3 Aug 2007 3:52pm

Any chance of a description of the "bucket method" ?
choicey
choicey
QLD
280 posts
QLD, 280 posts
3 Aug 2007 5:11pm
Sure, Get a Bucket, plastic is best, cut 4 or 5 slots in the rim depending on the amount of lines you have.
Do a normal set up on land, now from the bar end start feeding the lines into the bucket. Your safety line needs to be shortened up at the bar so the kite goes out flagged, also don’t ever put the bar in the bucket, Put all line in the bucket from the bar first. When you get to the kite put the lines in the slot you made then disconnect the kite(recommended)
then when at the spot pump up your kite,( one pump inflation is easiest with electric pump) hook up your lines in the correct order, then throw the kite overboard. when all the line has paid out of the bucket ,release the rest of your safety line , then jump in and water launch.
It works well but if you have 2 or3 crew on the boat kiting the buckets can get messed up just stowing them for the trip and all you end up with is a bowl of spaghetti .
In big seas it can be hard enough just standing there let alone messing around with buckets.
Juddy
Juddy
WA
1103 posts
WA, 1103 posts
3 Aug 2007 3:13pm
I don't suppose boat launches are going to work too well if you're flying a foil then are they?
harry potter
harry potter
VIC
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VIC, 2777 posts
3 Aug 2007 5:37pm
Thanks Choicey
choicey
choicey
QLD
280 posts
QLD, 280 posts
4 Aug 2007 2:03pm
quote:
Originally posted by Juddy

I don't suppose boat launches are going to work too well if you're flying a foil then are they?



Youngie may Have the answer to that one. i did try it from a boat with a foil in Egypt , we got it up but not that easy.
I don't know if you can still get reel bars?
fver
fver
WA
453 posts
WA, 453 posts
5 Aug 2007 10:05am
Xtortia, wrong link, huh?

Here is the video (5MB)
kiteforum.com/viewforum.php?f=200/index.php?option=com_videos&task=download&id=484&Itemid=1

Fred
xtortya
xtortya
WA
322 posts
WA, 322 posts
6 Aug 2007 5:00pm
cheers fred...i still couldn't find the bloody thing.
RayQ
RayQ
WA
638 posts
WA, 638 posts
6 Aug 2007 5:34pm
Islands off Hillarys? or Rotto?
LouD
LouD
WA
642 posts
WA, 642 posts
6 Aug 2007 9:34pm
Ha ha Ray
So U cant stay off seabreeze even when on holiday.
Thought this thread would interest you.
Any wind out there?
RayQ
RayQ
WA
638 posts
WA, 638 posts
6 Aug 2007 9:59pm
Hi LouD
Still got a week to go, not much wind on the baltic sea, but have got some sweet proto boards in my hands ready to try when Im back.
choicey
choicey
QLD
280 posts
QLD, 280 posts
7 Aug 2007 1:12pm
We have been hitting the back of the Garden .
on Sunday we got it 15-18kn Northerly . Clean head high down the line right handers....Ahhhh.
We did another deep launch, i lost my F'n Turbo Launcher when it pinged off. The kite went out fine but very fast. we usualy run our safety through the little bungie, but I forgot to in all the excitement.
Lucky i have 2 spare, (it is a good idea to prep 2 bars each when going off the boat in case of a tangle.)
I was out on My New 11m Rev and a 6'2,
The Rev bar set up is ideal for deep launching, the kite goes out flagged and the safety comes out below the bar so you dont end up with a funky tangle at the last second.To make things even easier the Rev is also a very good water lanuncher.
Choice!
Beer Bong
Beer Bong
WA
350 posts
WA, 350 posts
7 Aug 2007 11:23am
Hey Grahame,

Is boat the only way to get out there, unless you are in the Navy, where you can sail the 7 seas.......? ie drive?

Clive

p.s. hope the twins are well.
choicey
choicey
QLD
280 posts
QLD, 280 posts
7 Aug 2007 2:14pm
Hey clive , yeah we checked that out too, we reckon if there was a group of say 3-4 VERY EXPERIANCED kiters on surfboards could on a nor west sail up wind from Crystals.
Dude the girls are great, they had there 3rd birthday last week
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