robby naish once said - seat harness is for beginners, waist harness for professionals fairdinkum!

i think that those who wear the waist like it because it frees up your leg movements, raises the hook a bit so u can get in and out quicker, and keeps you more upright over the board for wavesriding and tricks etc. so you don't end up in the toilet stance

if i use my seat harness without the leg straps done up, does that make it a waist harness? by the way, i just cracked a ton! do i get another star?

well im goin down to see windshack tomoro i think i will have a try of the waist harness tomoro and see how it feels

I learned on a seat - used it for years. Tried a flying objects waisty, an older model and it was uncomfortable so I went back to the seat. Then I tried a Da Kine (Taboo I think is the model name). Its a beauty and I no longer use the seat, however I haven't used any sails bigger than a 7.2 for a couple of years now. I think the seaty is better for big sails. They do enable you to sit in the harness better. Waisties do ride up. Its pretty much down to preference I think.

i was joking about the beginner thing btw

although i use a waist they rub on my love handles in severe choppy conditions, but if i tolerate it for long enough i get calices

NotWal - i've got a dakine tabou too and like it very much, especially for an el-cheapo $90 model

i guess if i just buy a cheep one like one of the np ones for $130 it wi ll atleast give me the option to use one and get used to it,

i will go down have a look at what windshack and windsurfing oerth have tomoro and hoping if the wind comes in i will have a new harness to play with

i go were ever it is about waist high waves somtimes i go near laiten i think its called and somtimes when it is realy wind i go to woodies point for the big chop. but im hoping to get better and go out into the biiger shoulder hight and not have to many worries,

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Originally posted by Greenroom

Oh and the harness has a quick release and a system that never allows the spreader bar to ride up
The reason why waist harness ride up is because they havent been fitted correctly

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Or your pear shaped like Mineral

I think its a small You could go in the shop and try one on
Mineral, do you taste like a pear

Hey Jord, changed over a while back to waist, I got no waist, so I'm a XS. I found it easier to use a waist with a little getting used too, kinda feels easier to sail with, esp in the stronger winds. Although I'm using lines that are too small, I'd rather it too the seat. Personal preferance all the way, that and some mixing with what kind of sailing your doing.

And speaking of prices... I managed to trade in my seat for a waist at the same price I got it from Reg, good guy!

Hey Jord

I still use both

I started using waist this season.

Seat for just B&F blasting in lower winds.

Waist for a bit more free feeling on may smaller boards stronger winds heavy chop - love the feeling of the waist in B&J conditions.

DavMen

Or you can have the best of both and try a Da Kine XT seat which has a waist high hook for waves and a seat to stop it riding up when you using larger sails. You can also adjust the hook up or down.

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Originally posted by jord070

yeh i think im going the rite way with getting a waisty i will try one out , just while im on the topic of waist for waves , what is the secrete to locking the wind under the sail to get bigger air??

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No secret Jord
In what situation are you refering to? Jumping over a wave or jumping while wave riding? I guess your talking wave jumping? The key is heaps of speed, look at the section you want to hit, unhook just before you hit the wave (Or stay hooked in. Starting out I think unhooking would be easier) Head slightly downwind but not too much as you may send yourself into a forward loop while doing the next few steps... then as you are jumping, bend your knees and lift you feet up under your butt. Keep the sail sheeted in, sheeting out will cause you to fall sooner, but dont over sheet as this may send you forward if your body weight is too far forward. Im guessing at this point is the answer to your question? I will let someone else finish with the description of the landing and add any other key points I have missed with the set up and launching into big airs

Dont hold your breath for a wind change Jords