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theDoctor
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10 Nov 2011 11:22pm

You never never KNOW if you never never go...

Www.michaeltsarionaustraliantour.com

....just putting it out there
busterwa
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10 Nov 2011 10:46pm
to full-on doc hey dudeman doing in my head....
log man
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11 Nov 2011 2:02am
theDoctor said...


You never never KNOW if you never never go...

Www.michaeltsarionaustraliantour.com

....just putting it out there


you don't have to tread in dog **** to know it stinks
petermac33
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11 Nov 2011 12:57am
Anyone who has not been taught properly what to believe,needs to go back to school/uni for more schooling/indoctrination.

Tsarion was obviously easily distracted at shool or maybe needs to take some psych drugs so he can be labotomized into believing the truth.

Always some wacko out there that does not believe what's on the telalievision.

theDoctor
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11 Nov 2011 9:27am
log man said...

theDoctor said...


You never never KNOW if you never never go...

Www.michaeltsarionaustraliantour.com

....just putting it out there


you don't have to tread in dog **** to know it stinks


Well, actually you do...

Otherwise you only think you know it stinks cause someone else told you
adolf
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11 Nov 2011 6:36am
theDoctor said...


You never never KNOW if you never never go...

Www.michaeltsarionaustraliantour.com

....just putting it out there


Should be a ripper of a night - hearing about truth and stuff.
poor relative
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11 Nov 2011 7:16am
Does he do hip hop n stuff?
barn
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11 Nov 2011 7:17am
Just read a page of one of his books. Anybody who believes this guy should be sterilized..

It's as if people are so annoyed with the world that they will reach out and believe any old 'alternate history' dreamt up by these nuts.. Dumb, desperate losers..

Carantoc
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11 Nov 2011 7:41am
theDoctor said...

log man said...

theDoctor said...


You never never KNOW if you never never go...

Www.michaeltsarionaustraliantour.com

....just putting it out there


you don't have to tread in dog **** to know it stinks


Well, actually you do...

Otherwise you only think you know it stinks cause someone else told you


But you only got to step in it once to know it stinks.

You don't have to step in every bit of **** that comes along, its all the same **** you know
FlySurfer
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11 Nov 2011 11:14am
I watched (tried to) 9hrs of his Astrology DVD's 10 years ago.

My wife's in to the Psychic/Astrology/Medium things and I tended to only believe in telepathy until I had a session with an astrologer... took my birth date and said this is how you're feeling now, this is how you'll feel in the future AND he was pretty accurate.

He explained about long cycles, astrological frequencies and how they affect everything including the weather.

But fark, Michael and David sure wooffle on and on and on and on, so at least you'll get your moneys worth
barn
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11 Nov 2011 8:23am
FlySurfer said...


My wife's in to the Psychic/Astrology/Medium things and I tended to only believe in telepathy until I had a session with an astrologer... took my birth date and said this is how your feeling now, this is how you'll feel in the future AND he was pretty accurate.


Do you think the magicians actually saw their assistants in half also? Do they actually conjure up doves?.. No, they are professionals tricksters and are very good at their job..

Ask yourself, why are the Psychic/Astrologer/Medium experts wasting their time with you, when they could be predicting the Lotto and stopping terrorist attacks?..


He explained about long cycles, astrological frequencies and how they affect everything including the weather.


Astrological frequencies? I suppose these frequencies are beyond the detection of scientific instruments?

Flysurfer, I'm afraid you are bonkas.
FlySurfer
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11 Nov 2011 11:40am
barn said...

FlySurfer said...


My wife's in to the Psychic/Astrology/Medium things and I tended to only believe in telepathy until I had a session with an astrologer... took my birth date and said this is how your feeling now, this is how you'll feel in the future AND he was pretty accurate.


Do you think the magicians actually saw their assistants in half also? Do they actually conjure up doves?.. No, they are professionals tricksters and are very good at their job..

Ask yourself, why are the Psychic/Astrologer/Medium experts wasting their time with you, when they could be predicting the Lotto and stopping terrorist attacks?..


He explained about long cycles, astrological frequencies and how they affect everything including the weather.


Astrological frequencies? I suppose these frequencies are beyond the detection of scientific instruments?

Flysurfer, I'm afraid you are bonkas.



Barn, I don't know whether to feel sorry or happy for you. Sorry because you've experienced so little or happy because your life is simple and you still have lots to experience.

The frequencies are completely detectable... the cycles can be a little slow though.

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11 Nov 2011 8:54am




barn
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11 Nov 2011 8:59am
FlySurfer said...



Barn, I don't know whether to feel sorry or happy for you. Sorry because you've experienced so little or happy because your life is simple and you still have lots to experience.

The frequencies are completely detectable... the cycles can be a little slow though.




Weather you feel sorry for me or not does not change the fact your bonkers.

And I hope, by 'long cycles' you don't mean the Milankovich cycle..

Astrology is as bunk. It has no intelectual credibility. It was superseded by Astronomy, just like Chemistry replaced Alchemy..
FlySurfer
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11 Nov 2011 12:04pm
barn said...
Ask yourself, why are the Psychic/Astrologer/Medium experts wasting their time with you, when they could be predicting the Lotto and stopping terrorist attacks?..


Ask yourself, why you don't google for a minute before you post, so you don't look completely ignorant every time
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychic_detective

In any event I said my wife was in to it... and she is bonkers.
barn
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11 Nov 2011 9:30am
FlySurfer said...


Ask yourself, why you don't google for a minute before you post, so you don't look completely ignorant every time
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychic_detective



Psychic detectives? Ok, I went to the link and scrolled to the bottom and, ohh, look?

The Australian Institute of Criminology, Australia's official crime research agency, advises parents of missing children not resort to psychics who approach them.[43] Former FBI analyst and profiler Clint Van Zandt has criticized the use of psychic detectives and has stated that "What happens many times is that professed psychics allow themselves the benefit of 20/20 hindsight. After the case is solved, they make their previously vague predictions somehow fit the crime and the criminal."[44] A detailed 2010 study of Sylvia Browne predictions about 115 missing persons and murder cases has found that despite her repeated claims to be more than 85% correct, "Browne has not even been mostly correct in a single case."[45]


Yep, total crap...

'Psychic Detectives' are frauds and utterly wicked.. They try and profit from grieving families that are in the most desperate situations..

If I was an officer in a case and one of these f%^ks found the corpse I would arrest them for being the murderer.. It's pretty obvious really, they know the whereabouts of the body because they put it there..

Is this making me look ignorant enough yet?

But nice side stepping of the whole astrology frequencies! I'll google it myself for a laugh..


FlySurfer said...

In any event I said my wife was in to it... and she is bonkers.


haha must have been love at first sight!!.. Have you asked her if a psychic foretold the month you two would meet?

"In june you will meet a man who has two eyes and a hat, marry him, it is your density.. I mean destiny"
FlySurfer
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11 Nov 2011 1:22pm
Barn, fark man, you always have to jump up my ass every time I venture outside your little tunnel.
All I'm saying is the astrologer was accurate, it's not like I read my horoscope (vague BS that could apply to anyone) everyday or at all.

I like to be balanced, so I'm open to alternative ideas, philosophies, metaphysics and even pseudoscience... the weighting of each varies but minimal in my thought process.

It's very easy to just say everything is bull, cos we don't understand it and it doesn't fit our world belief.
Without being open to ideas you'll have a hard time being innovative.

Astrology is easy to debunk, but at the same time it offers up an alternative view that my lead to an insight within real science.

And if you ask a psychic to tell you what number your thinking of between 1 and 1000000000 and they get it right, well that's good enough for me. If they can't, well you know they're just talking crap.
felixdcat
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11 Nov 2011 10:47am
I am not a believer but!
About 10 years ago my business partner told me he knew a psychic and that she was really good, so good that his dad (self made millionaire) would not make any big financial decision without getting her advice. I laughed and took the piss out of him. He said then try her! I went for a session and she told me things about my past that I only knew, she told me how my dad in law passed (that was very strange as the story is very complicated) she told me that my daughter just had an abortion (I did not know that) and she told me among a lot of other bits that I would be divorced by the middle of the next year (happened too).
Now I am not sure what to believe??????
barn
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11 Nov 2011 11:01am








theDoctor
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11 Nov 2011 3:20pm


In many regards astrology is astronomy

Just as chemistry is alchemy

Maurice Cotterells' work in the astronomy/astrology, chemistry/alchemy of ancient civilisations is amazingly detailed.
japie
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11 Nov 2011 5:08pm
FlySurfer said...

Barn, fark man, you always have to jump up my ass every time I venture outside your little tunnel.
All I'm saying is the astrologer was accurate, it's not like I read my horoscope (vague BS that could apply to anyone) everyday or at all.

I like to be balanced, so I'm open to alternative ideas, philosophies, metaphysics and even pseudoscience... the weighting of each varies but minimal in my thought process.

It's very easy to just say everything is bull, cos we don't understand it and it doesn't fit our world belief.
Without being open to ideas you'll have a hard time being innovative.

Astrology is easy to debunk, but at the same time it offers up an alternative view that my lead to an insight within real science.

And if you ask a psychic to tell you what number your thinking of between 1 and 1000000000 and they get it right, well that's good enough for me. If they can't, well you know they're just talking crap.


You have to have a laugh at folk who deny everything that is outside of their beliefs.

My house mate is a denier of all things inexplicable. We were discussing afterlife one night and his opinion is that it is all a heap of crap. In the same breath though, redneck that he is, he told me he believed in ghosts!!!!!!!!!!

He saw one in Sydney. He and his missus had just finished copulating and were having a cigarette when an apparition passed through the door then opened the door to the wardrobe, took a jacket out and walked out. Gobsmacked, he turned to his woman who had gone white and said "Did you see that". They went out into the lounge were their friend was sitting shocked at having seen it as well.

Everything else of course is pure bull****e.

He read Hick's book though and is now an ardent critic of the United States
K Dog
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11 Nov 2011 5:41pm
theDoctor said...



In many regards astrology is astronomy

Just as chemistry is alchemy

Maurice Cotterells' work in the astronomy/astrology, chemistry/alchemy of ancient civilisations is amazingly detailed.


Alchemy is the tantrism of the West.

The old occult circles had this theory if you mentioned the "great arcanum" you would be killed... it was the Adept's secret etc.... now its common knowledge.
The East never that fussed....
barn
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11 Nov 2011 2:53pm
theDoctor said...



In many regards astrology is astronomy


Sure, if you want to know the phases of Jupiter, a good astrologer will be able to tell you..

It's the moment after, when they then tell you how the phases of Jupiter will impact on your chances of picking up on the weekend, you know it's bull..

They are Bonkers, no matter how accurate their moon charts are..


Just as chemistry is alchemy



Much of the things discovered by alchemists was the beginning of chemistry.. But to be an alchemist post enlightenment is also Bonkers.. There is no Elixir, and Gold cannot be derived from Lead.. I guess that all sounds logical to somebody who believes the Queen is a Lizard..


FlySurfer said...

Barn, fark man, you always have to jump up my ass every time I venture outside your little tunnel.


My little tunnel of rational skepticism (as opposed to your variety of CO2 skepticism)


It's very easy to just say everything is bull, cos we don't understand it and it doesn't fit our world belief.
Without being open to ideas you'll have a hard time being innovative.


I don't need to be open to these ideas AFTER they have been disproved a million times..

I don't say everything is 'Bull', but if you stand up and say the Queen is an Alien, Homeopathy works, Ghosts and the Afterlife are real, without providing any credible evidence then I will call BULL...

Think more critically, don't balance your thinking with stupidity..


That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.- Hitchens

adolf
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11 Nov 2011 3:59pm
theDoctor said...



In many regards astrology is astronomy

Just as chemistry is alchemy

Maurice Cotterells' work in the astronomy/astrology, chemistry/alchemy of ancient civilisations is amazingly detailed.


You are right.

I remember watching a movie by Ron Howard years ago - I think it was called back draft. Anyway, it's about a fire fighter who was in actual fact a fire lighter!!!

Don't watch that movie though - it was really boring.
FlySurfer
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11 Nov 2011 8:42pm
barn said...
Gold cannot be derived from Lead..


Again your ignorance is only superseded by your prolific billsh!t (irrational scepticism)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_transmutation

barn
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11 Nov 2011 7:29pm
FlySurfer said...

barn said...
Gold cannot be derived from Lead..


Again your ignorance is only superseded by your prolific billsh!t (irrational scepticism)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_transmutation




Very clever, I was clearly talking about deriving Gold using the techniques employed by the Alchemist..

I thought I would give you enough credit, and not waste your time pointing out that rather obvious Chem101 fact.. Perhaps you should have used your powers of Telepathy to understand that..

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_telepathy

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_reading
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12 Nov 2011 12:14am
theDoctor said...



In many regards astrology is astronomy

Just as chemistry is alchemy

Maurice Cotterells' work in the astronomy/astrology, chemistry/alchemy of ancient civilisations is amazingly detailed.




um no. astrology is founded on the earth being the centre of the solar system and universe.
astronomy proves that is not the case.
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12 Nov 2011 12:35am
there's some high quality nut boxes on this site
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11 Nov 2011 9:47pm


I don't say everything is 'Bull', but if you stand up and say the Queen is an Alien, Homeopathy works, Ghosts and the Afterlife are real, without providing any credible evidence then I will call BULL...


Others may call BEAR just depends on what game you're playing!
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11 Nov 2011 10:04pm
Damnit barn.

Every time you get into an argument I run out of green thumbs.
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