landyacht said...

Ive been driving past that camp for over a year , and im stunned at just how long its taking to build.
it may have cost 170mill but somebody somewhere is creaming off the top because all it is is a bunch of dongas, just like any mining or construction camp surrounde by absurd amounts of razor wire.
normally camps that size and quality would go u[p in a matter of weeks or months , but these contractors are dragging the job out to well over a year.
thats where most of your 170mill is going

Dead on the money there Landy, the group who did a number on that place allowing a $170mil price tag need to be jailed. Bloody five star camps at BHP, FMG Hedland, Newman cost considerably less
Karratha are getting a 6000 man camp for far less

felixdcat said...

Seen on the news last night, cost $ 170,000,000.00 to house 800 men???? no girls????

for how long?

Are you complaining that $170m is a lot of money or that the money to people ratio is too high?

If it's the former, then we need fewer refugees..

If it's the latter, then you need to put a time dimension in..

SP said...

I have 2 questions I've always wondered about Oztraaalias refugee history..

Was captain cook the first Cue Jumper?
&

We're the first fleet the first lot of illegal refugees to land on Australias shores?.

1. Answer: No. Cue was a town on the wheatbelt on the West Coast of Australia so he landed on the wrong side to get to it. It was also far too wide for a human to jump and so it was not physically possible.

2. Answer: No. The Aboriginies were, the wallabies had a terrible time trying to get rid of them and eventually gave up.

Hope this has helped.

I think the point is for $170mil you can build 1000 2 bedroom self contained units. (Edit: Govt land is free to the Govt, so 1000 HOUSES would be achievable)

They already had a fenced area with accomodation and admin buildings - it is the old army barracks.
All it needed was a facelift for the accomodation, not starting from scratch, and then add all the security stuff that goes with a detention centre.

Of course the facelift has been grossly excessive and it looks like a resort.

Yes conditions have to be humane but when schools have to fundraise for donations in the community to buy one aircon for a classroom that is a bloody donga (not even a real building), or they don't have anywhere near enough beds in E.D or mental health system..... then the Govt spending $170mil to renovate a facility is annoying to say the least.

patsken said...

mineral1 said...

landyacht said...

Ive been driving past that camp for over a year , and im stunned at just how long its taking to build.
it may have cost 170mill but somebody somewhere is creaming off the top because all it is is a bunch of dongas, just like any mining or construction camp surrounde by absurd amounts of razor wire.
normally camps that size and quality would go u[p in a matter of weeks or months , but these contractors are dragging the job out to well over a year.
thats where most of your 170mill is going

Dead on the money there Landy, the group who did a number on that place allowing a $170mil price tag need to be jailed. Bloody five star camps at BHP, FMG Hedland, Newman cost considerably less
Karratha are getting a 6000 man camp for far less

Yes but the ones that FMG have get blown away and kill some poor sod....

That was the con camp Pats, transportable old style dongas. I am talking the latest ones which have no resemblance to the older style camp accommodation.
PS she wasnt a sod either RIP

So how many refugees do we get per year and what is the annual cost???

And aren't we all descendent of refo or migrants?? But my house isn't glass

One thing that makes me laugh- Northam army camp was used after WW2 as an immigrant housing centre, with the old weatherboard barracks huts housing several families in each.
If the families wanted any privacy they had to string up blankets as walls. They froze in winter- and sweated all summer and were, by-and-large, thankful for it.
Many of these immigrants had no choice regarding where they worked- or in what trade, they went where they were told, and did what they were told as part of the conditions of thier immigration.

I dont know if the old barrack huts are still there- or if they would be in a fit state to use after all these years, but I fail to see why the taxpayer has to pay through the nose so a multinational company can make a fortune running a camp which is handed to them on a plate.

Do we really need to outsource everything- surely our federal govt. can actually run a campsite- if need be, just ask the military for some advice.
That 170 million dollars could have built the new Northam detention centre, plus employ more federal police- and the feds could run the whole thing themselves.
Run it on the same principal as our prison farms- our convicted criminals work on the farms to feed the other prisons, so why cant the detainees work on a big govt. run property to subsidise themselves?

stephen.

RPM said...

jamdfingr said...



I wouldnt expect the same treatment if I was a refugee in their country.

That's because you would be deported..

Our government is a pack of wankers and soft cocks

Asylum is the biggest con going.. Why cant people just apply by the normal means of immigration/visa applications? They have previously held passports and ID.. But choose to destroy it and chase asylum.. That is basically criminal activity (deception for personal gain) Sooner you seabreeze do-gooders realise it is the sooner we see no more BS topics on this subject.

Applying by "normal" means takes too long. Our Permanent Residence application took about 2 years in total. That is a heck of a long time to wait if your life and your kids lives etc are at risk on a daily basis.

mineral1 said...

^^^^^^
So best you do now, is spend some of that contract money on that hammer finish trailer, and you could claim it was a legit work related cost, cos the locals chucked rocks at your trailer while on site

Sorry minners i decided to delete my comments as i am still bound by confidentialltiy.
The fact is nearly all the comments above about the camp, are incorrect.

Correct or incorrect is just a question of point of view!

jamdfingr said...

SP said...

So how many refugees do we get per year and what is the annual cost???

And aren't we all descendent of refo or migrants?? But my house isn't glass

Nope, My family on both sides are about 8th and 9th Generation Australian...

I don't come from migrants... I come from Conquerors!

I was going to say Colonisers but that may get a different spin in this forum...

And the lengthy wait time for the refugees is due to those who have been deemed "Non-Refugees" creating a backlog in the courts because they are appealing the decision. If we had policy that moved them on once a decision was reached, then we would have less wait times for the genuine refugees.

You really don't play the game right jamdfingr. You keep trying to confuse a good story with facts and common sense. It won't win you any friends you know .

dinsdale said...

jamdfingr said...

SP said...

So how many refugees do we get per year and what is the annual cost???

And aren't we all descendent of refo or migrants?? But my house isn't glass

Nope, My family on both sides are about 8th and 9th Generation Australian...

I don't come from migrants... I come from Conquerors!

I was going to say Colonisers but that may get a different spin in this forum...

And the lengthy wait time for the refugees is due to those who have been deemed "Non-Refugees" creating a backlog in the courts because they are appealing the decision. If we had policy that moved them on once a decision was reached, then we would have less wait times for the genuine refugees.

You really don't play the game right jamdfingr. You keep trying to confuse a good story with facts and common sense. It won't win you any friends you know .

Thanks Dins... Im still learning from some of the spin doctor masters from this forum....

Mark _australia said...

I think the point is for $170mil you can build 1000 2 bedroom self contained units. (Edit: Govt land is free to the Govt, so 1000 HOUSES would be achievable)

I recall during the school buildings debacle that it came out they'd been charged $700K for a two classroom building that was normally ....$450K. How the **** does a two classroom building cost $450K, normally?