Prado vs Pajero

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Poida
Poida
WA
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WA, 1922 posts
15 Jan 2013 4:02pm
if you got the coin a new landcruiser sahara diesel $125k,
otherwise i found the pajero turbo diesel gls NT 2009 good value for money. $51k for near new 15,000km on the clock in 2010. gets about 11 L per 100km fuel consumption.

I dont like the Mitsubishi all terrain technology in the sand. it cuts power to wheels once they start to spin. i prefer full power all the time. you can get around it by just touching the brakes. not sure how toyotas deal with this. i think they have similar

the paj is comfortable if you are tall, which is one of my main items to check, as i do a lot of driving. i didnt like the toyota seats.
rod_bunny
rod_bunny
WA
1089 posts
WA, 1089 posts
15 Jan 2013 7:53pm
What you want is a troopy with kaymar rear barwork.

Made short work of the Great Wall that was pushed into mine at speed by a Hilux with 3 pi$$ed up tradies in it this afternoon.




Dunno how I'm I'm gonna get the paint transfer off my towbar chain points
surferstu
surferstu
1011 posts
1011 posts
16 Jan 2013 12:50am
rod_bunny said...
What you want is a troopy with kaymar rear barwork.

Made short work of the Great Wall that was pushed into mine at speed by a Hilux with 3 pi$$ed up tradies in it this afternoon.




Dunno how I'm I'm gonna get the paint transfer off my towbar chain points


Oh what a feeling
Simsurf
Simsurf
WA
239 posts
WA, 239 posts
16 Jan 2013 2:42pm
Hooksey, let me know what you end up with mate and what the final deal breaker was.

I am in exactly the same situation looking at the 2010/2011 Prados and Pajeros.
I need a family cruiser, beach capable, tow a camper trailer,fit my surfboards and kite gear. Pretty much the all round family mobile. Both seem to fit the mold, and prices seem comparable.

I have a 12 year old 100 series now, had it since it was 12 months old. Love it, but it's starting to make expensive noises. Can't afford the new models (late 100's or the 200's) no matter how good they are.


grumplestiltskin
grumplestiltskin
WA
2331 posts
WA, 2331 posts
16 Jan 2013 3:13pm
Poida said...


I dont like the Mitsubishi all terrain technology in the sand. it cuts power to wheels once they start to spin. i prefer full power all the time. you can get around it by just touching the brakes. not sure how toyotas deal with this. i think they have similar




The Mitsi's have a button on the dash that you press to OFF and it cancels this out
Tractorguy
Tractorguy
TAS
543 posts
TAS, 543 posts
16 Jan 2013 7:36pm
simstat said...
Hooksey, let me know what you end up with mate and what the final deal breaker was.

I am in exactly the same situation looking at the 2010/2011 Prados and Pajeros.
I need a family cruiser, beach capable, tow a camper trailer,fit my surfboards and kite gear. Pretty much the all round family mobile. Both seem to fit the mold, and prices seem comparable.

I have a 12 year old 100 series now, had it since it was 12 months old. Love it, but it's starting to make expensive noises. Can't afford the new models (late 100's or the 200's) no matter how good they are.





Mate rebuild what evers fecked , regret selling mine a couple of years ago. Best car i ever owned. Got a mate with a 110 000 dollar 200 series near new and hes gotta carry 5 litre of oil with him at all times.
cheekydog
cheekydog
14 posts
14 posts
16 Jan 2013 7:32pm
Prado!
russh
russh
SA
3027 posts
SA, 3027 posts
17 Jan 2013 9:42am
Poida said...


I dont like the Mitsubishi all terrain technology in the sand. it cuts power to wheels once they start to spin. i prefer full power all the time. you can get around it by just touching the brakes. not sure how toyotas deal with this. i think they have similar




I've got the traction control as a part of ATT on my 2012 Challenger Wagon - and its unreal - The challenger is smaller and lighter than both the a fore mentioned and seems very capable in the sand driving I have done so far (Beacport - Nora Carina track and local beaches)
Once you get use to the MATT particularly in low range sand driving 2nd or 3rd or over berms (when a wheel is off the ground) its very useful - the traction control brakes the spinning wheel - I think it works well in the sand expeditions Ive done so far - and can be just enough for you to putter over the top of the steep loose hill without digging a hole for your wheels - each to their own though

On the challenger - the cargo space Fits 2-3 sailboards & sails and gear with 2 adults and 1 kid or 8'9 SUP and shortboard in the car (plus roof racks) and Tows the camper (Jayco) nicely - not sure about the selection of some of the interior surfaces though when your throwing your gear in the back - scratches a bit easily - unfortunately you cant get them with vinyl floors (for ease of sand removal)

Another option if you don't have more than 2 kids - nice price for the base off road pack as well

nicko1
nicko1
VIC
5 posts
VIC, 5 posts
17 Jan 2013 11:24pm
Prado is a great car, but having had them for last few models got to say the older 120 Series is my pick.

Carrying kids - 150 Series
Carrying windsurf gear / bikes - 120 Series

Some critical storage space (height) is lost in the 150, due to the fold-down recessed rear 3rd row seats... but if your getting the kids from soccer then perfect.

GypsyDrifter
GypsyDrifter
WA
2371 posts
WA, 2371 posts
19 Jan 2013 12:45am
A Delica! same chassis and running gear as the Pajero
Diesel, manual, 4x4 what more could you want....
ummm something that looks good!
Marvin
Marvin
WA
725 posts
WA, 725 posts
19 Jan 2013 8:05am
Somewhat aside, if you don't need heavy duty towing capacity it is worth considering the Suzy Grand Vitara petrol slushbox auto - some sacrifice in interior cargo space but a big saving in fuel (post 2009 four cylinders give 11 litres per 100 round town and 9 in the country, 15 towing a trailer with a mountain of boards). If you can cope with a manual then it would be better again.

Way better front leg room than either the Prado or Pajero.

Full time 4WD with proper low range - goes well in the sand given low range and its light weight. Surprisingly capable in the rough stuff from the short wheelbase. Pin sharp handling and a classy interior.

Cheap for low kms second hand. Jap sorted reliable.

Overlander 4WD of the Year 2 years running, for good reason.
Poida
Poida
WA
1922 posts
WA, 1922 posts
20 Jan 2013 2:39pm
grumplestiltskin said...
Poida said...


I dont like the Mitsubishi all terrain technology in the sand. it cuts power to wheels once they start to spin. i prefer full power all the time. you can get around it by just touching the brakes. not sure how toyotas deal with this. i think they have similar




The Mitsi's have a button on the dash that you press to OFF and it cancels this out


i thought that was just traction control not the MATT, mitsibishi dealer mentioned jut to touch the brake pedal and it overrides the MATT
Flux
Flux
WA
533 posts
WA, 533 posts
20 Jan 2013 9:25pm
I cannot believe this is even up for debate the Prado is hands down without competition here, maybe buy a wheels mag and check the sale's figures of each and you will find thousands of Aussie's can't be wrong.
The question you should of asked yourself is, "can I afford the Prado? because if I can't maybe the Pajero would suffice."

Also why own a vehicle where the Spanish translation for said car Pajero is telling you , that you can't keep yer hand off it, isn't that con enough without elaboration?
Hooksey
Hooksey
WA
558 posts
WA, 558 posts
21 Jan 2013 10:52am
nicko1 said...
Prado is a great car, but having had them for last few models got to say the older 120 Series is my pick.

Carrying kids - 150 Series
Carrying windsurf gear / bikes - 120 Series

Some critical storage space (height) is lost in the 150, due to the fold-down recessed rear 3rd row seats... but if your getting the kids from soccer then perfect.




Been looking at the 120 series. How many boards / how long do you carry inside the car?

Does anyone have experience with taking out the 2nd row seats?


d1
d1
WA
304 posts
d1 d1
WA, 304 posts
21 Jan 2013 11:19am
Flux said...
Also why own a vehicle where the Spanish translation for said car Pajero is telling you , that you can't keep yer hand off it, isn't that con enough without elaboration?


This myth has been mentioned so many times, people may start believing it.

"Pajero" is not a Spanish word. In Spanish, it would be pronounced by default with stress on the second syllable and a "kh" sound instead of "jay". There is a similar-looking Spanish word however - "pájaro", stress on the first syllable. It simply means "bird". The alternative meanings of pájaro are fairly obscure slang in fairly obscure places. In terms of sound likeness, Pajero and pájaro are rather different though, and no Spanish-speaking person will ever confuse them.

There are other, more representative examples of car names that are a poor choice in Spanish, for example: GM Nova. "No va" means "(he/she/it) does not go".

So, the Spanish translation should not count against the Mitsubishi.
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