log man said...Mark _australia said...
The quota thing sh!ts me badly. Why should we have to have x percentage of females in politics or whatever? If they are not interested in it let them be!
I can agree a little with having Muslims and Hindu's and whatever racial mix in the Govt departments as customers need to be able to approach somebody who understands etc. But why try and force a 1% Muslim and 10% Samoan and 2.3% Aboriginal employee mix in the fire brigade or Police or Army if they are not interested in applying?
Mark, so if they're "interested" is it OK. I don't know if your intentionally misrepresenting the situation or you really don't understand. So here's the argument: In an attempt to try to make society a fairer place for all citizens, schemes of "positive discrimination" or "quotas" or whatever have been used around the world to attempt to make workplaces an equal playing field. Women are discriminated against in the workplace. White, middle class, men are in the driving seat in the workplace, NOT women. Men are the dominant group in the boardroom NOT women. Women are discriminated against in the workplace through promotion , pay and expectation. Selection panels made up of men tend to select men for the job over equally credentialed women. Old predjudices have proven more difficult to end than once thought and I'm someone who wants to see a fair go for all members of society, aren't you? Surely you would want your wife or daughter to have the ability to fulfill they're talent, without having to cope with a UN level playing field. So Quotas could be a good thing, yeah?. Your idea that somehow unwilling women are pushed into the boardroom to accept the role of CEO even though they're "not interested" is just plain funny. And, sorry why can't we have Sikhs or Muslims in the police or the fire brigades? Would they're Turbans not fit under the fire helmets or something? I know, it must be very upsetting to you to have a female Governor General, but also for her to bring up Quotas for other women. But society moves forward for the better. I don't want to give you a migraine or anything but when will we have our first Muslim woman as Governor General
Did you even read my post?
Where does it say we should
not have Sikhs or Muslims in the armed forces or Police etc? What I DID say was just because they make up, say, 2% of the population, yet they do not constitute 2% of a certain occupation why try and force it? The current situation is the bleeding heart activist types whinge that we must be racist cos there is not 2% Sikhs in the Navy or whatever. Maybe they just don't bloody
want to be in that job cos they are all too smart and make heaps of money playing with computers all day??
I don't care if the G-G is female - or black, white or yellow for that matter.
But if they legislate that 30% of boards must be female that is madness - they will at some stage have to promote the second or third placegetter in a promotional process to acheive that balance... ie fulfill their legal obligation - and that is not good for the company.
Logman you are yet another person who mistakes realism for racism (or sexism). Your ilk are allowed to have their opinion but anyone else's opinion is bigoted or racist apparently.
(PS sorry Mineral)
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