Raises another interesting point. Where the hell are all the windsurfing chicks????

learning to kite...trained by IKO..sister arm of CIA



Also what about lauries involvement in wind rigging conspiracy...easterlies on a weekend! as if..



But for two cents,
any conspiracy can only be held by a few players with lucky pay offs to their underlings. potential exisitence of conspiracy? yes, luck?...some, sucess? a few
but how deep does it go?
Well my manager at work is all ways being a dick...maybe he is involved too? insert sarcasm.

The "Free Masons" have been superceded bt the "Free I.T. Consultants " ?????

I haven't watched it yet, but their are many good books on the history of money. There was a BBC series on the history of money not so long ago. It is quite a complex subject.

What none of them that I have read really push with gusto is the concept that money was doomed when the state worked out how to have state debt.

I recall the Dutch had it nailed first and the English King around 1600 (I think perhaps William of Orange (being a dutch man) ??) went and got the Dutch chancellor who then created english state debt.

Prior to this money lending had been essentially small scale, short term loans.

State debt gave bonds, which were long term and tradeable. You could formally buy and sell debt, debt became a tradable commodity and like all tradeable commodities therefore became a thing people wanted to buy, so became a thing other people saw a market in selling.

No doubt prior to this there were money lenders who bought and sold each others debts, but not on a scale like state debt.

My opinion is it all spiralled out of control from there.

Most recently in the US when the price of debt crashed, and all the debt miners and debt traders had vast reserves of debt in their warehouses and no market for them, then everybody realised they didn't understand how trading debt actually worked anymore and cried a bit, blamed sub-prime mortages and then .... carried on buying and selling debt.

The Governments of the world stepped in, ranted on about improving regulation to ensure it doesn't happen again, then realised they had become so addicted to tradeable debt, they couldn't give it up.

Maybe the world governments should go back to selling opium as they did prior to fundiing by state debt ? That way the people are addicted to buying what the government sells, not the government addicted to selling what people buy ??