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saltiest1
saltiest1
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15 Nov 2009 3:50pm
be really nice to the nasty little kids. let the kids know whos dad you are and they will swing. been there a few times and its never failed.
sorry nebs but it plays on my head when there a kid involved with a potential lousy future
as daggy as it sounds it is actually the adult taking control of a situation through example and kindness rather than negative reactions.
kinda like hitting a dog to teach it things. itll turn on ya one day. gotta use the positive side.
ill get off my high horse now before im shot off it.
nebbian
nebbian
WA
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WA, 6277 posts
15 Nov 2009 1:47pm
I really hope that everything gets sorted out.

In the meantime, the forum rules (www.seabreeze.com.au/Members/Help/ForumRules.aspx ) state:

* No abuse, insults or personal attacks

The other thread had some posts that went against this rule, which is why it was locked...


Please remember to keep it fun!
NotWal
NotWal
QLD
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15 Nov 2009 9:43pm
Yeah I agree with that saltiest1.
If you relate to them they will see you as a human being and make allowances rather than generating fear and loathing amongst themselves. But I guess you know that . ... Could be too late for that too i.d.k.
Greenroom
Greenroom
WA
7608 posts
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15 Nov 2009 8:42pm
Having kids is probably the biggest challenge of my life so far. Forget high school, drivers licence, single phase motors, PLC's or maximum demand. How about the carve gybe or forward loops? These challenges in my life have been a walk in the park compared to the birth and raising my two kids who are now 7 and 4. When I think about it they have had so very little life experience. For instance my 4 year old has only been alive for 4 whole years! He has only just started kindy this year. They know absolutely nothing. Ive enjoyed seeing both my kids experience first things. Like their first step, their first tooth etc etc etc. A lot of firsts are still happening. Its up to us as parents to guide them and teach them correct principles and allow them to govern themselves. Its tough, real tough but rewarding. Kids also feel things to the extreme. Like when you walk in front of them they yell out WAIT, COME BACK! But your only 5 metres away. Or if they hurt their finger they need a kiss and a band aid to make it all better. We just need to cut them some slack. Help them with their problems because we have so much more experience in life than they have.
People who have had kids and have grown up and moved out usually forget what it was like and are quick to judge. Or people who dont have kids think how easy it would be and are quick to give advise based on nothing.
As for me I consider myself a pretty easy going dad. Relaxed and chilled. I want to be approachable. I want to be the worlds best dad.
Thats my 2c
MintoxGT
MintoxGT
WA
975 posts
WA, 975 posts
15 Nov 2009 9:23pm
Barbie is obviously struggling and trying to get some advise, the problem is with the facts, evidence and interpretation plus how a story is written.

Barbies problem is a big one and I feel her expression was one of reaching for assistance rather than ranting, the other guys probably are dealing from an experience or a "If that had happened to my child) point of view, fair enough! ...... I HAVE NO IDEA IF THIS IS THE CASE, JUST MY OPINION (Not interested on stepping on toes)

Thats why I bailed and hope that Barbie gets it sorted and the guys dont judge based on a more complicated story that has only been partly addressed.

Again good luck Barbie.

Cheers GT

MintoxGT
MintoxGT
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15 Nov 2009 9:25pm
Greenroom said...

Having kids is probably the biggest challenge of my life so far. Forget high school, drivers licence, single phase motors, PLC's or maximum demand. How about the carve gybe or forward loops? These challenges in my life have been a walk in the park compared to the birth and raising my two kids who are now 7 and 4. When I think about it they have had so very little life experience. For instance my 4 year old has only been alive for 4 whole years! He has only just started kindy this year. They know absolutely nothing. Ive enjoyed seeing both my kids experience first things. Like their first step, their first tooth etc etc etc. A lot of firsts are still happening. Its up to us as parents to guide them and teach them correct principles and allow them to govern themselves. Its tough, real tough but rewarding. Kids also feel things to the extreme. Like when you walk in front of them they yell out WAIT, COME BACK! But your only 5 metres away. Or if they hurt their finger they need a kiss and a band aid to make it all better. We just need to cut them some slack. Help them with their problems because we have so much more experience in life than they have.
People who have had kids and have grown up and moved out usually forget what it was like and are quick to judge. Or people who dont have kids think how easy it would be and are quick to give advise based on nothing.
As for me I consider myself a pretty easy going dad. Relaxed and chilled. I want to be approachable. I want to be the worlds best dad.
Thats my 2c


On ya mate and ditto that..... Well put

GT
busterwa
busterwa
3782 posts
3782 posts
15 Nov 2009 9:45pm
NO_FRIENDS sounds like me
Your son is normal there is no cause for concern
He will meet and pick up friends who he has common interests with once he settles in to a new social substructure..
I beileve that the violent streak is a bad thing. resorting in violence is a last result and is used by undiplomatic people who have verbal comunication trouble.
violence should not be encouraged and should be dealt with acordingly.
although he is still very young the underlyn fact is that he cant expect to play with everyone(like a puppiedog)In life we often even as adults we often meet a wide variety of personas and personality types we dont get along with..e.g a workforce so we distance ourselves from the subconciously with out a judgement.

its better your youngin finds this out when he is 4 years old and not 18 years old.

I think that the problem is exceptance. and in life not everyone excepts you but there is no need to be violent its as simple as walking away.

i think insted of a you-beaut remote controlled car you could gain much more out of a gunnei pig rabbit or some sort of animal (mabe a dog or cat ) that he will find a freind..
this will emphasize love and responcibility and exceptance .
insted of stessing and continually highlighting his bad points you can simply use the "fun theory" to build knoldedge and understanding and learning of his strengths.

In all honesty barbie i think you have come to the correct forums for help.
windsurfing kitesurfing is a non team sport.
When i go out im all alone i challenge myself i dont try and impress other people i dont make friends.
it just me and my best friend ....the wind and water.

mabe there is a peice of your son in everyone...............?







saltiest1
saltiest1
NSW
2575 posts
NSW, 2575 posts
16 Nov 2009 10:56am
saltiest1 said...

be really nice to the nasty little kids. let the kids know whos dad you are and they will swing. been there a few times and its never failed.
sorry nebs but it plays on my head when there a kid involved with a potential lousy future
as daggy as it sounds it is actually the adult taking control of a situation through example and kindness rather than negative reactions.
kinda like hitting a dog to teach it things. itll turn on ya one day. gotta use the positive side.
ill get off my high horse now before im shot off it.


or mum.
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
9207 posts
NSW, 9207 posts
16 Nov 2009 12:21pm
nebbian said...
Please remember to keep it fun!


Originally I wrote that the other kids were probably windsurfers and that Barbie's kid should just ditch the kite...

... but then I kept reading the post. Barbie if I came across as blunt, well that was because I was a bit too blunt. Apologies. Like I said in my last sentence I hope that there is more to the picture, and I'm sure there is.

Hey, my alter ego's gotta live up to his name once-in-a-while.
Sailhack
Sailhack
VIC
5000 posts
VIC, 5000 posts
17 Nov 2009 11:00am
Greenroom said...

For instance my 4 year old has only been alive for 4 whole years! He has only just started kindy this year. They know absolutely nothing.


Really? My 4yo daughter knows TOO MUCH, I reckon...4 going on 14!

As a dad of a 6 & 4yo, I still don't think I qualify to give advice, that's why I didn't...ask again in 10 or so years, although I'll prob be more confused on the issue! All I do is just give them plenty of attention, listen to what they have to say, and always have a smile & cuddle waiting.
Diver
Diver
WA
554 posts
WA, 554 posts
17 Nov 2009 9:55am
busterwa said...



....its better your youngin finds this out when he is 4 years old and not 18 years old.



Totally agree.

For what it is worth, I reckon alot has gone by the wayside as the role of teachers has changed in schools and the continual questioning and fighting of authority has lead to a lack of respect for those that are there to enforce it.

The smart ones learn early that society offers and gives alot more to those that know how to live within it, and not fight it and blame others.
grumplestiltskin
grumplestiltskin
WA
2331 posts
WA, 2331 posts
17 Nov 2009 10:00am
Sailhack said...


As a dad of a 6 & 4yo, I still don't think I qualify to give advice, that's why I didn't...ask again in 10 or so years


Hackster. by that time they will be giving YOU advice
Flux
Flux
WA
533 posts
WA, 533 posts
17 Nov 2009 11:13am
Hmmm please what was the original thread it sounds nice and controversial I would like to read it :)
I hope no ones feelings were hurt in the 'said' thread?
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
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17 Nov 2009 11:40am
I dont think Barbie reads seabreeze anymore = FAIL to forum users, shame...
busterwa
busterwa
3782 posts
3782 posts
17 Nov 2009 1:43pm
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=57498

this topic is a better read !!!!!
Gr0mm3t
Gr0mm3t
89 posts
89 posts
17 Nov 2009 5:18pm
hi ken
MintoxGT
MintoxGT
WA
975 posts
WA, 975 posts
17 Nov 2009 7:29pm
doggie said...

I dont think Barbie reads seabreeze anymore = FAIL to forum users, shame...


Fair enough, she was ripped a second ars0le by a few boyz!

PS I have no idea why my previous comment was red thumed? Arrogance maybe as the comment is just an agreeance *Shrug* Ohwell, it aint red no more *Double shrug*
mineral1
mineral1
WA
4564 posts
WA, 4564 posts
17 Nov 2009 8:43pm
busterwa said...

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=57498

this topic is a better read !!!!!


Gee, they dont muck about over there on that forum
We must sound like a bunch of snoozy pussies over here, to those legends.
Elroy Jetson
Elroy Jetson
WA
706 posts
WA, 706 posts
17 Nov 2009 9:25pm
Flux said...

Hmmm please what was the original thread it sounds nice and controversial I would like to read it :)
I hope no ones feelings were hurt in the 'said' thread?


The original thread was locked not deleted

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=57754
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