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TimothyLeary
TimothyLeary
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10 Jul 2005 6:29pm
quote:
Originally posted by poor relative

the truth or your interpretation of the truth..



The truth is the truth. Simple as that.

The interpretation is in your mind. If its not what you want to hear,you just abuse and deride.

What do you want the truth about again? The Hellfish or the Nemesis 06?Or Brownie?
PsYLoR
PsYLoR
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927 posts
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10 Jul 2005 8:47pm
Lock up your daughter's and shoot your son's Timmy's on a forum rampage
poor relative
poor relative
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10 Jul 2005 6:55pm
As a rule Tim i dont abuse however your bringing the best out in me with your incredible attempts to look cool.
Let me tell you your not cool in fact you remind me of a slug.
HungLong
HungLong
WA
859 posts
WA, 859 posts
10 Jul 2005 6:56pm
quote:
from my original reply
"Now if they could only make it without bladders and bridals... That would be the best kite..."


If you didnt recognise it Tim, this was a play on words... You may have to actually read the press release Tim...

Let's not forget how this all started, Long Hung Lets get the fish out this W/end, from carl bevo
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8310 . A question from a good mate just asking for a session this weekend ! and you turned it to this,
quote:
We dare not!

Its only a poor prototype,rev 3,version 3.
Nearly everyone laughs at it when they see how badly it flies and the color coming off !



quote:
I called you Xenophobic.
I said you had no conscience.
I never called you a liar.
I believe that you actually believe the bull that you pass on.

You are very guillable. Either that ,or you think that we are very guillable. Which is it ?


arh yeah you did, a couple of posts earlyier look...

quote:
Thats when I answered your abuse with a few truths about the Best kites.

quote:
What do you want the truth about again? The Hellfish or the Nemesis 06?Or Brownie?


That clearly indicates your stating best and myself are liars...

Then you go on to call me Xenophobic, that I have no conscience, I'm gulliable and insinuate that the other readers are also gulliable... More Abuse & name calling from yourself Tim...

And then there's this classic one...

quote:
So,Hung Long (Is that a boast ?Is it a reference to your coque?


Sorry Tim (rockstar), I dont go that way, I'm happily married with two daughters I think you've got the wrong forum if your trying to pick up buddy


regards browneee
PsYLoR
PsYLoR
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10 Jul 2005 9:03pm
dont waste your time on him.
TimothyLeary
TimothyLeary
WA
142 posts
WA, 142 posts
10 Jul 2005 7:24pm
quote:
Originally posted by HungLong

quote:
from my original reply
"Now if they could only make it without bladders and bridals... That would be the best kite..."


If you didnt recognise it Tim, this was a play on words...

Let's not forget how this all started, Long Hung Lets get the fish out this W/end, from carl bevo
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8310 . A question from a good mate just asking for a session this weekend ! and you turned it to this,
quote:
We dare not!

Its only a poor prototype,rev 3,version 3.
Nearly everyone laughs at it when they see how badly it flies and the color coming off !



quote:
I called you Xenophobic.
I said you had no conscience.
I never called you a liar.
I believe that you actually believe the bull that you pass on.

You are very guillable. Either that ,or you think that we are very guillable. Which is it ?


arh yeah you did, a couple of posts earlyier look...

quote:
Thats when I answered your abuse with a few truths about the Best kites.

quote:
What do you want the truth about again? The Hellfish or the Nemesis 06?Or Brownie?


That clearly indicates your stating best and myself are liars...

Then you go on to call me Xenophobic, that I have no conscience, I'm gulliable and insinuate that the other readers are also gulliable... More Abuse & name calling from yourself Tim...


regards browneee




Wow! I'm impressed! I've really got into your head space haven't I ?
That was never my intention. You just got on my case ,and I keep replying !

I did not clearly state that Best and you are liars! Where did you get that from ?
I quite clearly stated that I will tell the truth. If you read into that that you guys are lying,thats YOUR interpretation. Don't slander me by saying that I clearly stated that you are liars.
I am an honest person,and I will speak the truth. Thats all.

When you tell me to leave the forum because the "locals" dont want me here (of course that means you and you and your 3 cronies.)you are making it clear that I am not welcome here because I am a foreigner. Thats xenophobic.

So my orriginal comments about the Hellfish started this fussin'an'feudin'!!(oops! There I go with the hillbilly thing again!)

It may have been a bit controversial,but it IS THE TRUTH.
Go on,deny it. Tell us that no one had problems flying the Hellfish,that was supposed to make all kites redundant.
Tell us that it didnt fly backwards with ANY rear line tension.

Tell us that after hyping the chrome color (THE only color that Cuben Fibre came in) they didn't have to go back and make a new co;or because the silver color was coming off.

Tell us again how a 13 m Hellfish will replace our 16m kites,yet most people that have tried it clearly state that it doesn't. Some even claim THEIR 13m Yargas are better !(Go figure!)

These things are all true. Everyone knows it.

Geez! What a mess !

If they can get out of this,I will be highly impressed !
It will convince me that no matter how messed up things are,there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

You had better hope its not an oncoming train !!!

HungLong
HungLong
WA
859 posts
WA, 859 posts
10 Jul 2005 7:57pm
quote:
I did not clearly state that Best and you are liars! Where did you get that from ?


here you go Tim, from your posts/replies...

Posted - 10/07/2005 : 18:29:20
quote:
What do you want the truth about again? The Hellfish or the Nemesis 06?Or Brownie?


Posted - 08/07/2005 : 14:47:28
quote:
Brownie and others attack me with all kinds of bull !



Posted - 10/07/2005 : 13:40:58
quote:
Thats when I answered your abuse with a few truths about the Best kites.


Posted - 10/07/2005 : 15:12:58
quote:
I just post the truth to counteract the stream of false advertising

quote:
It refers to the truth being spoken to counteract lies.


quote:
I am not calling you a liar. But you handle the truth very carelessly.


Posted - 10/07/2005 : 19:24:13
quote:
I quite clearly stated that I will tell the truth.


Pretty clear to me what your saying there isnt it !

quote:
you are making it clear that I am not welcome here because I am a foreigner. Thats xenophobic.



NO... some have said your not welcome because of your constant negativity. No one even knew your were a foreigner untill you just stated it.

quote:
Go on,deny it. Tell us that no one had problems flying the Hellfish,that was supposed to make all kites redundant.
Tell us that it didnt fly backwards with ANY rear line tension.

Tell us that after hyping the chrome color (THE only color that Cuben Fibre came in) they didn't have to go back and make a new co;or because the silver color was coming off.

Tell us again how a 13 m Hellfish will replace our 16m kites,yet most people that have tried it clearly state that it doesn't. Some even claim THEIR 13m Yargas are better !(Go figure!)

These things are all true. Everyone knows it.


I have never denied the prototypes that went into making the final production model of the Hellfish had areas to be worked on... That's why their called prototypes Tim !

regards browneee
waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
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10 Jul 2005 8:36pm
PsYLoR said,

"I had a good kite today"......etc (Page 2)

Just saw your post .....Cool writings, very soulful man.
I like the style. I'm impressed.

Regards 'slave
PsYLoR
PsYLoR
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927 posts
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10 Jul 2005 10:40pm
cheers man its what its all about.
poor relative
poor relative
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10 Jul 2005 8:41pm
we need more soul.
Psylors moment is the only thing that shines in this whole bunch of crap.
waveslave
waveslave
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10 Jul 2005 9:11pm
Timmy, Take a BIG breath.........1 2 3
Now, free advice....high five.

You were doing OK early in the game show, but blew it at the business end.

You fell for that old trick; you stooped to the same level as the abusers.
Yeah, the gutter.

If you want fun and success in the 'breeze forum, you need to raise the altitude.
Stick to the high-moral ground at all times, maintain standards.

There are no stalkers here, you're getting a teensy bit paranoid......
But it's nothing to worry about. It'll fade.
TimothyLeary
TimothyLeary
WA
142 posts
WA, 142 posts
11 Jul 2005 2:56pm
I'm just trying to do my thingand say my piece.

I really dont know what your problem is.
elizabethb
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11 Jul 2005 6:31pm
I just can't believe that this has gone of for more than four pages! I mean you've got to be joking TL... There are arguements through four pages of this topic, two pages in the 'New safe kite' topic www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8315&whichpage=1 , two pages in the ' New kites - check the photos of this one.' www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8333&whichpage=1 !!!

The priorities that some of you have may need to be re-positioned so as to stop the continual arguing and nit-picking... It is amusing to a certain point, and then just frustrating to others because our comments just go by as yours continue onwards... Well thanks, that's just what I feel is happening... Better reading!

C'mon wind

Elizabeth - Wello Kiter
TimothyLeary
TimothyLeary
WA
142 posts
WA, 142 posts
11 Jul 2005 5:29pm
Elizabeth
You are right of course!

Everyone wants to get the last word in !

Guess there is no wind!

More wind !
GregS
GregS
NSW
25 posts
NSW, 25 posts
11 Jul 2005 11:24pm
Hi Steve,
just back to your original topic...
Interesting that these eliptical kites are similar shape to the funny old C-quad from Peter Lynn. circa 1997.
Except now its revolutionary, pushing the boundaries, a technological advance, etc etc
Still, new materials means new opportunities to push into different directions, even using a design from 7 years ago. Experimentation's got to be good for the sport.

Cheers
Greg

NSW, 4382 posts
12 Jul 2005 8:37am
quote:
Originally posted by GregS

Hi Steve,
just back to your original topic...
Interesting that these eliptical kites are similar shape to the funny old C-quad from Peter Lynn. circa 1997.
Except now its revolutionary, pushing the boundaries, a technological advance, etc etc
Still, new materials means new opportunities to push into different directions, even using a design from 7 years ago. Experimentation's got to be good for the sport.

Cheers
Greg





I agree Greg, The C-Quad was and still is an amazing traction kite. Its designs roots go back to even earlier kites like the still incredible Revolution kites. I remember using them nearly 10 years ago as stacks for buggying, incredible power per size and incredible upwind performance.

There are issues with this "new" flatter LEI type of design, that we are yet to hear much about due to the hype. Some people will no doubt be prepared to compromise, but I do not think any of the current c shaped kites are obsolete either.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve McCormack
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
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12 Jul 2005 8:37am
Steve What in your opinion are the issues with the new kites.
I agree sometimes Hype prevails and all else pails into insignificance. am interested in your thoughts though.
dachopper
dachopper
WA
1806 posts
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12 Jul 2005 11:36am
it doesn't really matter if it flies a bit better, it needs to be the same price to warrent changing over from a great performing selection of kites available....to a new one
poor relative
poor relative
WA
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12 Jul 2005 11:38am
so why wouldnt these kites be great performing, i dont understand?
Trant
Trant
NSW
601 posts
NSW, 601 posts
12 Jul 2005 2:29pm
quote:
so why wouldnt these kites be great performing, i dont understand?


I don't think anyone's saying they won't perform, just that they may not be suitable for your style of riding.

e.g. If you only like doing wakestyle tricks then you're unlikely to buy a mutant style board, but no one says mutants don't perform.

We'll just have to wait and see what the pro's and cons are for these new designs. (Unless Steve would like to comment now )
poor relative
poor relative
WA
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12 Jul 2005 12:39pm
i hate waiting. it sucks.
Wait wait wait
These manufacturers do my head in if they say they are releasing a product release it, and lets get on with it instead of waiting waiting waiting.
Does my head in.
can't wait
NSW, 4382 posts
12 Jul 2005 4:04pm
quote:
Originally posted by poor relative

Steve What in your opinion are the issues with the new kites.
I agree sometimes Hype prevails and all else pails into insignificance. am interested in your thoughts though.




Being Cabrinha, I don't think there will be any quality or backup issues.
The issues I forsee will be whether the kite suits the average rider, and jumping and sheeting out, and I am not going to make any statements about these until either I ride one or someone I trust rides one.
I am very over hype, Best's included.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve McCormack
Awaken
Awaken
QLD
128 posts
QLD, 128 posts
12 Jul 2005 5:43pm
I have to agree here I believe that it COULD be a step in the right direction.Only time will tell but i cant see everyone downing the c shaped kites to go to these new fandangled ones.
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