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it would help make your dick look 70% bigger...

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****in hell i'd need a 20 metre fishy hell and 30kn winds to even get me up.

video looks impressive, Cant wait to try one shortly.
Perhaps next time you should compare it to one or more top performing light wind kites. This will give everyone an indication of performance vs what we already have, rather than get into a fist fight over numbers.
Hope its as good as what you say, and if it is, add one to my quiver!
OX

Im sorry everyone but yes i have realised (not the first time) assumptions can be dangerous, i trusted my brother (in a different state) would have known what the windmeter was reading in, but like me he made the assumption too that it was in kts. I WAS NOT deliberately lying to you all, i know it seems that way.

I checked the windmeter just now as i opened the shop and yes its definitely reading in m/s. So 3.6m/s is 7kts - still awesome for what he was doing, and now atleast the windmeter is agreeing with chopper - Sorry man you were right this time it was around 7-8kts...

Thanks goes out to tomtom on kiteforum.com for persisting on this and proving me wrong because if he didnt i would still be standing by my word, and all of you would be believing me. Good work

Hope you guys can be understanding and forgive us for this mistake.

Still like others have said, 7-8kts upwind on the 13 is still impressive! AND atleast now the 17, 20 and 25 (that thing is gonna be scary) have a use!! hehe


Waiting for the onslaught....

Peace

well thats a hard thing to determine because it would be different comparing to each type of kite, but the material is 80% lighter and the L.E. and struts are half the size... so im sure you could work out something from those numbers... would work out to something like... ALOT!%

Peace

It was pretty obvious from the noise that the wind was well above 3.5 knots!!!!! More exaggeration from best. Were are the hard facts?

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Originally posted by Kiting Monkey

More exaggeration from best.

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What sort of pathetic sportsperson are you? The guys made a slight blue with windmeter. Like a real gent he puts his hand up apologising in detail and you kick him in the nuts?

As far as some of the others neagtive posts are concerned, it's incredible how creative the distressed/fearful mind becomes when in reality denial/dissociation.

The reality is thus. Sunday a few weeks ago at Point Walter, here in Perth we had the exact conditions that can be seen in the video(sub 10 knots). One guy tried to launch a North R20, which would not stay up. The rest of us, including half of Perth's sponsored riders just stood on the beach, talking ****, scratching our bellies. The reality is if we all had 13m Best HF's we could have been riding that day.

Bo

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You could have all been riding - if you all weigh 60kg

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Damn, it was me with the 20m Rhino..how am I going to lose 18+kgs.....

Bo. 13's yeah youd be out, probably a little underlit... but now with this mistake discovered, the 15, 17, 20 and 25m now have a use!
so any wieght rider would have been out and powered! no question.

The hype may be dog vomit to read but you just wait till you try one dude..

Peace

kitepower ppl, please fix your website so it works in browsers other than internet exploder :(

and while your at it, how about using some other video formats for those of us who are qtchallenged

Glad the wind is finally sorted, 8kt plus sounds better, I'd still like to compare 1 with my kite in light winds sometime though 10-13kts , and my new kites when they arrive , with your CB's 2 dale

Bring it on Dachopper, M5 vs CB anyday, I will C U in Cairns mutha.....

firefox 1.0.4 and no link to the vid
quicktime sucks, i refuse to install it shrug ;)

Dave,

check out the MediaPlayerConnectivity connectivity extension for FF.

you'll need an external player that can play back the files - i use xine or mplayer, but they dont playback quicktime or wmv9 by default, so you might need to download and install the mplayer codec pack (which should "just work" for both xine and mplayer)

just create a directory called /usr/lib/win32 and unzip the archive into this directory then try and play a .mov or wmv9 file... if that works then try installing the FF extension and launching the video in your fave player....

codecs are here:
http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/essential-20050412.tar.bz2

extension is here:
addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=446

as always if things dont work then its time to RTFM

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Originally posted by kitesuffer

My 2c. Windmeter is at head height, not even at outstretched arm height. Pt Henry (for those that don't know) has reeds just below the surface and often does not chop up in strong winds so the absence of whitecaps is no suprise. Pt Henry has more windshear that ANY place I have ever kited and it handed my ass to me on a plate one day because of it. SO I reackon at 4.0 m/s on that windmeter you could equate that in terms of riding conditions to anything from 9-13 knots. I still think that is pretty good going for a 13m although G is no heavyweight. 3+ is a BIG stretchUntil you put the kite up against another brand in the same spot at the same time it doesn't mean a lot. Peace, what about adding G's weight and the board size for completeness?

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There is no wind shear on the water out towards the tip of the point where this video was taken, you can get wind shear in closer to shore on the west side of the point. The sort of wind shear that occurs here is similar to any coastal area with dunes close to the waters edge.

The wind meter is being held in an area where there are no obstructions upwind of it.
The wind meter was set to meters per second. (by mistake)
Goshens weight and the board length have already been disclosed, but just for clarify again, Goshen weighs approx 60+kgs dry, we estimate in a full steamer and harness, wet, he weighs 65+kgs.
The board in the vid is an Underground 130 wave tray

The area out near the sand point that is Pt Henry, where the video is taken has water that is approx 1M or slightly deeper, in the area that Goshen was riding. The reed beds are in closer to the southern end of the point. That area can be virtually flat in winds several times stronger.

Watching the video again I saw the windmeter jump above 4.0 and up to 4.4 M/S.

Regardless, it is very impressive for any 13M kite that I have flown.

My sons and I were very impressed by how well the kite flew on the beach at Dolls Point in Sydney the previous night, in approx half the wind Goshen had at Pt Henry. The kites handling is extremely crisp and reactive to any input from the rider. Its light wind flying ability is better than any kite surfing kite I have flown.

We are not saying that a 13M kite would be our choice to fly in conditions like Goshen had, he was just amped to get the thing in the air and actually use it, and we are genuinely sorry for the mistake on the windmeter setting.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve McCormack

Steve, there's a bit of wind forecast for tomorrow. You taking the Hellfish anywhere to test it out?
Wouldn't seeing it in person