Scuse me! but wot are we saying here?

I know, listening to her being interviewed on abc yesterday made me want to sh!t in her letterbox everyday for the rest of my life..

What a terrible human being...

Let's play the issue, not the person(s).....

Some observations:
1) that press release was dated October 2009
2) As a MP, she's doing (or did) what some of her constituents wanted her to do.
3) Perhaps kiters who live in her electorate could meet with her to express their concerns/desire to keep the spot open?????
4) WE ALL KNOW the problems associated with/at Melville beach. WE are the solution to those problems.
5) In my former capacity, I met with Ms Woollard last year to discuss Melville beach issues.
6) City of Melville recognises kite surfing @ Melville beach as a legitimate recreational activity - they would be the appropriate starting point IMO.

Juddy

On Melville safety - I wonder if anyone has suggested bulldozing a laneway across the back of the beachfront blocks and turning the road into grassed park? Surely owners of these properties would agree if it makes it a safer kiting location...

The Woollard Saga is fairly distasteful and hopefully her constituents sack her next election.

What about a kiting fund raiser in aid of Kate Cambell - does anyone on the forum know her?

Wow, a rich person using lawyers to avoid moral obligation.

What next, silvertails using family trusts to avoid tax obligation

Dave Whettingsteel said...

Unbelievable hypocrisy, but also grossly exaggerated.

Her husband is a leading surgeon, they must be quite wealthy. Can't believe they would rather let their son go bankrupt than help him out paying a court awarded damages assessment from a crash in their uninsured boat.
**** happens, but if you can, you should take responsibility.

Don't know what kid is like, but maybe they are tired of paying for his mistakes, and finally decided to let him actually suffer the consequences of his actions.

I could imagine that there are quite a few parents out there that are a little tired of footing the bill for their kids lifestyle and mistakes.

They are called "Gen Y" because as the saying goes, "Y did I ever have one?"

1likeBJ said...

On Melville safety - I wonder if anyone has suggested bulldozing a laneway across the back of the beachfront blocks and turning the road into grassed park? Surely owners of these properties would agree if it makes it a safer kiting location...

YEAH RIGHT. did u even think about this statement before you wrote it?

puppet her and her little cry baby son are a farken joke

puppetonastring said...



Now its time for me to go and find out what party she represents. Wanted to have my say regardless of which party isnt sacking her. Shame on whoever that is.
Surely to God no-one will ever consider a vote for her ever again.

She's an independent Puppet - from Wikipedia

"Janet May Woollard (born 13 February 1955) is the sitting member for the seat of Alfred Cove in the Western Australian Legislative Assembly.
She stood for the seat in the February 2001 State election as an Independent candidate (representing the liberals for forests party), and defeated the incumbent and frontbencher Doug Shave who as Fair Trading Minister, was embroiled in a mortgage broking scandal. Woollard was re-elected in 2005 and again in 2008, after the Premier Alan Carpenter called an early election.
Her husband is Dr Keith Woollard, an ex-AMA president and founder of Liberals for Forests."

You would think that no-one would vote for her but when you consider some of the pollies that are in our parliament, you have to wonder about the voting public.

ruh roh woollards in more trouble


www.perthnow.com.au/news/wa/woollard-faces-ban-as-doctor-ng-8e2bffe78ae041f7875484a744a623fc

LukeWoollard said...

There have been a number of attacks on my mother over her support for aiming to make Kite Surfing safer in Applecross. People are entitled to such views, but they are justifing these attacks on the basis of my involvement in a serious boating accident in 2007. I know that accident had a profound effect on my mother and undoubtedly has influenced her drive towards steps which will reduce the likelihood of other people suffering serious injuries such as those sustained by Kate Campbell in my accident.

I am immensely proud of my mother and what she does, and hope one day that I might be able to make a positive contribution to the community.

Whilst some people have called for Kite Surfing to be banned in Applecross, my mother has only ever called for it to be made safer. She has been involved in this issue since 2007.

Unfortunately there are a number of misconceptions about the tragic accident which I have accepted full responsibility for. As a result I have put up some information at < http://lukewoollardboatcrash.info >.

Luke Woollard

Hi Luke

I respect you for coming forward here and taking responsibility for your actions. I have no doubt that the incident changed you and I also don't doubt that you have learnt from it.

I do think most of the issues here don't relate to her taking responsibility for your actions, they relate to her taking responsibility for the fact that her boat was not insured. Whilst insurance is not mandatory, its clear that had the boat been insured, Ms Campbell would have received appropriate compensations. I say "appropriate" because the compensation is not based on just medical costs which you seem to be driving as the main measure for her compensation.

I think in this case, people feel that for someone who is driving water safety to avoid taking responsibility for her own lack of insurance, it seems like her approach to the whole incident is a political one rather than someone who has a social conscience.

The whole thing with public perception is that its not what you're legally entitled to do, its what you actually do through your own free will. As an example, the minister of transport is not legally required to travel on public transport, but when she chooses not to (when trams are overcrowded and air con isn't working), it isn't perceived very well by the public. Unfortunately thats the nature of public perception and when you put yourself in politics, you're always going to be subject to public opinion and scrutiny about how you conduct yourself personally.

Thanks Dusta
Worth posting though.....quote......
"AUSTRALIA'S medical regulator is seeking to strip Perth cardiologist Keith Woollard of his right to practise medicine.
The Medical Board of Australia has taken action following a complaint to its assessment committee. .....
.... The action is another blow for the embattled Woollard family. The Applecross physician and his wife, independent MP Janet Woollard, have endured heavy criticism for their stance on their son's legal battle stemming from a boat crash in which a young woman was badly injured.
Luke Woollard pleaded guilty to crashing his father's boat while drunk and was then ordered to pay injured Kate Campbell almost $230,000 following a civil trial earlier this year.
But he says he is unable to pay.
The Woollards have come under fire for refusing to help him pay, despite being under no legal obligation to do so."

@ Luke
No one here is relating your mothers deplorable stance on this issue to actions either for or against kiting at Applecross. We are simply expressing our own personal views - which echo the views of any member of society, kiter or otherwise - who feels any compassion at all.
I too have been involved in the 'Melville Kiters' issues even before it hit your mothers radar. I have done so as a part of WAKSA which provides; & encourages kiters to have; public liability insurance to avoid the possibility of kiters creating the devastating hardship your parents have inflicted on an innocent victim by not having the WAKSA styled insurance they (in their lack of wisdom) chose not to pay for.

How they can sit back and allow this poor girl to suffer because they are "under no legal obligation" beggars the imagination. Esp when it was THEIR boat which caused the problem. Public liability insurance through WAKSA costs just $125. Im sure similar insurance for power boat owners would be a similarly inconsequential cost.
I have personally expressed my adamant belief that it is totally irresponsible for any kiter to practice their passion without paying this measly sum. Not just to protect themselves against claims such as the one you are choosing evade but to protect the rights of any innocent victim who may be on the unfortunate of side of any unfortunate 'incident'.
For a standing member of parliament - an elected 'pillar of society' - to choose to not protect those who pay her way by not taking 3rd party PL on her boat "because she is under no legal obligation to do so" is, in my mind, totally irresponsible. It is also totally hypocritical in principle. But then to force her son into bankruptcy to avoid her undoubtable humanitarian responsibility to compensate the innocent victim of her failure to buy insurance is simply beyond the comprehension of myself and every other person out there who has an ounce of compassion in their soul.

This has NOTHING to do with your mothers involvement in kiting. The only reason I am expressing these opinions on a 'kiters' forum is because -
1) I really feel the need to vent my gut wrenching reaction to this unbelievable slur on society you & your family are running and this happens to be the place I normally come to make comments.
2) BUT more importantly I hope that the predicament the Woollard family now faces points out the extent of liability any one of us could face at any moment and take the responsible action I have long promoted to get themselves the protection that WAKSA/AKSA membership provides.

I see the news of the unrelated professional body reaction to your families total disregard of personal responsibility as a screaming victory for the basic core of humanity. Anyone with any power to condemn your families actions in this case would be complicit if they didnt act.
I am sure that somewhere there in that age old 'hypocratic oath' your fathers running away from the patient in this case fails - BIG TIME.
Failure - as doctor who swears responsibility to assist ALL the sick & injured.
Failure - as a member of society who should acts responsibly to protect others.
Failure - as a parent who should take responsibility for his childrens actions.
Failure - as a human who should respond humanly.
Failure - as a person who should have & uphold personal values which are not reflected in these actions.

KITERs pls take note - its not worth saving less than 35c a day to risk liability to this type of compensation pay-out. And how could you live with yourself if you were to leave an innocent victim without compensation even if you dont have assets to protect.
WAKSA is the Way-To-Go for ALL kiters.

i'm curious luke. Do you hold a skippers ticket and are you aware there is a 10 knot speed limit from dusk till dawn, which if you were abiding by you would have had plenty of time to avoid the channel marker .

@ Luke
Given all of the above ....... why dont you get a job and agree to pay the $200,000 + owed to the young lady you injured in installments even $10,000 a year for the next 20years....TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY

You can do the right thing......then ask your parents for help if you need.

puppetonastring said...

back again ...... sorry but I feel the need to.

@Luke
I read your blog Luke. I can see nothing there which explains, exonerates or provides you with any defense for your decision to fail in your responsibility to the victim here.
The bankruptcy laws are provided; in sentiment; to allow those who would otherwise be unable to create a future for themselves an option when all else fails to cover their misadventure.
Unfortunately the bankruptcy laws are probably the most abused laws there are.
In your case there is no way in hell that payment of $230000 is going to prevent you from pursuing a successful future. You say you are taking full responsibility but clearly you are not. You and your family are abusing the system; which you have every legal right to do; but are squealing at others abhorrence of your abuse.
If you are "taking full responsibility" but "in my case I have limited resources and the only possible outcome is my bankruptcy"
Taking that option is totally irresponsibe.
Saying its the only possible outcome is totally dishonest.
You are in a position personally where Im sure any main stream lender would fund your liability against the assured income of a graduate.
Failing that a (cost free) guarantee from either of your parents would make a formal loan an absolute certainty.
You are not taking responsibility you are shirking it.
Your parents condoning (if not driving) this 'choice' you are making eats into the heart of all things parents should be. Role models, advisors and carers of their children. Not to mention the often unspoken value of taking, at least some, responsibility for their actions.
BUT they were the ones who lent you the uninsured boat for the night when, clearly, all would be anticipating a night of celebratory indulgence.
I, and I believe most others, see them at least as responsible for the victims misfortune as you as the driver were. They too are shirking responsibility by hiding behind 'you' - as a scapegoat for their own irresponsibilty - & behind the "law" which in this case was not meant for them.

The bankruptcy laws you are hiding behind are societies way of showing some compassion for the destitute. They are not there to protect the assets of the wealthy.

Whats at issue here are social values and conscience and compassion. You and your family are displaying an unbelievable lack on all fronts.
Dont then be surprised at the affront others are expressing. That is simply a display of the healthy side of our society.

Puppet, speaking of taking responsibility for ones actions, its a two way street. The bird who elected to jump in put herself in the situation and has unfortunately paid the price for that decision. Whilst it sounds harsh it is reality, dont try telling me she wasnt aware he had had more than a few beers after what I understand was a party.