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theDoctor

NSW

5786 posts

theDoctor

NSW, 5786 posts

9 May 2009 9:10pm

remo81 said...
And I didnt like the guys calling me a "Gumby".

but i'm sure you get that no matter where you go or what you do

....how do you really know he waqs a kamikazi...?

was he screaming BANZAII...?

lotofwind

NSW

6451 posts

lotofwind

NSW, 6451 posts

9 May 2009 9:13pm

Remo81
Nah,I think we are just a bit more sarcastic over here than in the windsurfing forum.
When it does actually come to the crunch,we all look out and support each other.

If you learn kiteboarding properly(lessons etc)its only as dangerous as you want it to be.Comes down to a bit of common sense.Not sure what that is yet,might have to spend more time in the poledancers forum to try and learn.

Hausey

NSW

325 posts

Hausey

NSW, 325 posts

9 May 2009 11:00pm

marty72 said...

Some of you guys have really missed my point, all I was trying to say was that, as fry 86 said "we as kiters on this forum and on the beach (if we ever see it happening) should have a word with the guys doing things on the beach that could jeopardize kiting there for all... " A major shop such as Kamikaze Kites should first of all tell learners to stay away from busy beaches!!! Check out what sort of crap they are promoting on their youtube account, this is the same guy that was teaching

What a video - that guy might have been taught by the pioneer of pioneers?

Beach jumping - what kind of tool would do it around a busy beach? An 'instuctor' who should know better!?

Kamikaze could start up a franchise in Byron - to put the final nails in kitsurfing's coffin. There were a couple of young guys also with Ozone kites jumping on the narrowest part of the beach almost in front of the surfclub in Byron a couple of weeks ago in the last northerly. I came down to watch the sunset and almost choked on my felafel.... I went down and questioned the guy jumping on the beach right next to all the people walking by..... and asked him what he was doing.... and he was a defensive aggressive twat....while his mate was doing hero jumps around a swimmer in the water!

These guys said they were 'sponsored' by Ozone and from the Goldy, and when I told them about the problems we were having here with the council and the residents and the surf club .... they couldn't have cared and were rude and aggressive in response. I think one was a red, orange and grey kite and the other red and yellow.... anyway boys if you are reading this ....next time kite up near 'the pass' further up the beach and stay away from all the people near the car park and main beach, swimmers and surfers - that would be much appreciated, or even better - don't come back!

sir ROWDY

5378 posts

sir ROWDY

WA, 5378 posts

9 May 2009 10:00pm

sounds like D3 strikes again!

Surfer62

1357 posts

Surfer62

1357 posts

9 May 2009 10:18pm

That is farqing funny

marty72

QLD

298 posts

marty72

QLD, 298 posts

10 May 2009 10:04am

My response to some of the comments made here are :
SECARTERMUSS : I only kite at the alley when it's blowing S.E. with a decent swell, maybe because of that I haven't seen anyone causing any problems there apart from Daniel doing his usual stuff and I have had a word with him, you seam to spend lot of time at the alley so if you see anyone doing anything stupid why don't you clean up your own backyard?
theDoctor: No he wasn't screaming BANZAII... I asked him what school he was from and thats what he told me plus it's the same guy on the kamikaze kites video
Hausey : Sounds like the same crew, Kamikaze kites sell/use Ozone
A lot of you guys are missing my point; This "instructor" nearly caused a major accident, if I didn't know anything about kiting and kept on walking the kite or lines would have hit me while I was carrying a little infant, not too worried about myself here but what would have happened if one of the lines cut into him or if I fell over on top of him? This could have resulted in a potentially fatal injury!

lotofwind

NSW

6451 posts

lotofwind

NSW, 6451 posts

10 May 2009 10:08am

gravity strikes again^^^^^^thanks gravity for all you funny falling over moments.Funniest home videos would be boring without you

Kitepower Australia

NSW

4382 posts

Kitepower Australia

NSW, 4382 posts

10 May 2009 1:03pm

marty72 said...

My response to some of the comments made here are :
SECARTERMUSS : I only kite at the alley when it's blowing S.E. with a decent swell, maybe because of that I haven't seen anyone causing any problems there apart from Daniel doing his usual stuff and I have had a word with him, you seam to spend lot of time at the alley so if you see anyone doing anything stupid why don't you clean up your own backyard?
theDoctor: No he wasn't screaming BANZAII... I asked him what school he was from and thats what he told me plus it's the same guy on the kamikaze kites video
Hausey : Sounds like the same crew, Kamikaze kites sell/use Ozone
A lot of you guys are missing my point; This "instructor" nearly caused a major accident, if I didn't know anything about kiting and kept on walking the kite or lines would have hit me while I was carrying a little infant, not too worried about myself here but what would have happened if one of the lines cut into him or if I fell over on top of him? This could have resulted in a potentially fatal injury!

Hi Marty72

Thanks for making locals that read seabreeze and the rest of us aware of this person.
Awareness is the first step in re-education, the "instructor" needs to be told that what he is doing is inappropriate, and could lead to bans.

@PaulJ - I'm sure GCC regs would require that anyone conducting commercial lessons on their beaches are adequately permitted and insured.

@ Hausey - Ozone Australia (me) don't sponsor any land kiters that promote beach and land jumping in public places, that endangers people ane beach access.

@ Marty72 - KK used to have an Ozone account 2 years ago, but it was withdrawn, they do not sell Ozone anymore, unless its 2 year old models. The primary reason it was withdrawn was lack of knowledge on how to safely sell and promote power kiting and kitesurfing. Other brands did the same thing.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

paul.j

QLD

3381 posts

paul.j

QLD, 3381 posts

10 May 2009 2:38pm

you know this for sure do you? I've never really looked in to it as i don't teach there but do know the Gold coast has always been touche about teaching on the beach, but come on every day its windy there are at least 10 people teaching their mates up and down the coast but hey this is the goldy not Sydney

I think the shop has to be told not the Instructor. I know when i get someone to do a lesson for me i'm the one who tells them where to teach and how to do the lesson.Maybe AKSA or SEQKA should give them a sign

HAHA must be no waves or wind as i'm still posting siht

Jacko

paul.j

QLD

3381 posts

paul.j

QLD, 3381 posts

10 May 2009 2:50pm

Hey Marty72
I'll answer for secartermuss as it was my turn to pay the MOFO membership and he would still be pissed

. We DONT kite the Alley and have nothing to do with the place so maybe when your not been so hard core in the big waves you might have to sort it

pretty sure that's what he would say, if I'm wrong I'm sure when he wakes up he'll correct it.

What you did was a GOOD thing we all do GOOD things, i once saved this 200kg guy who was swimming in his undies

Jacko

paul.j

QLD

3381 posts

paul.j

QLD, 3381 posts

10 May 2009 2:58pm

When i seen Steve from Kitepowder poke his nose in here i instantly thought of him and this guy as one.

poor relative said...

paul.j said...

come on PR i'm a super star, just ask me

Spacemonkey!

2288 posts

Spacemonkey!

SA, 2288 posts

10 May 2009 4:41pm

Rabble!!!

marty72

QLD

298 posts

marty72

QLD, 298 posts

10 May 2009 8:25pm

Jacko, maybe you shouldn't answer for other people and try to stick to the subject being discussed. Just a simple question for you, since you "DONT kite the Alley and have nothing to do with the place" how come most of the pics on your and secartermuss profile were taken there? Also reading some of your posts it looks to me like you need some English lessons "when your not been so hard core" , "are usually the worse when it gets to the beach", "on the beaches the or will you just" WTF???? lol good English

paul.j

QLD

3381 posts

paul.j

QLD, 3381 posts

10 May 2009 8:36pm

I know i spent to much time learning to kite and don't bother with this typing and spelling siht, maybe you could spend some time off the key board and learn to kite properly your self.

all my photo's were taken about 2 years ago when the alley was COOL

or when its blowing SE and only the hard core guys are out.

I asked secartermuss and he said that's what he would have said and i can talk for him any time.

Rabble????? all this is full ON safety talk come on guys take it serious.

Jacko

paul.j

QLD

3381 posts

paul.j

QLD, 3381 posts

10 May 2009 8:51pm

haHA sounded good when i wrote it..

marty72 said...

Jacko, maybe you shouldn't answer for other people and try to stick to the subject being discussed. Just a simple question for you, since you "DONT kite the Alley and have nothing to do with the place" how come most of the pics on your and secartermuss profile were taken there? Also reading some of your posts it looks to me like you need some English lessons "when your not been so hard core" , "are usually the worse when it gets to the beach", "on the beaches the or will you just" WTF???? lol good English

SmellySkater

110 posts

SmellySkater

110 posts

10 May 2009 6:54pm

Wow there is some really pathetic bitching going on in here now. Change the title to Kamikaze Kite instructor on the Gold Coast = Pathetic bitching on Kite Forums.

paul.j

QLD

3381 posts

paul.j

QLD, 3381 posts

10 May 2009 8:55pm

yes i vote change

Lindsey Rips

QLD

28 posts

Lindsey Rips

QLD, 28 posts

10 May 2009 9:22pm

there was wind today jacko

lindsey

paul.j

QLD

3381 posts

paul.j

QLD, 3381 posts

10 May 2009 9:36pm

Lindsey Rips

QLD

28 posts

Lindsey Rips

QLD, 28 posts

10 May 2009 9:47pm

it looked windy

surfingboye

NSW

2707 posts

surfingboye

NSW, 2707 posts

10 May 2009 10:38pm

Having just watched that video, I now have a new definition...

Beach Jumping + Foil + Gay bar + Try hard = ALEX SANZ

Is that a fair equation?

EDIT:
Maybe Alex Sanz should apply for the instructer job at Kamakaze Kite.
He has plenty of experience!

myusernam

QLD

6160 posts

myusernam

QLD, 6160 posts

11 May 2009 9:40am

land foil kiting or whatever you call it with that guy in the video is gayer than two guys in a public toilet doing it.

loco4olas

NSW

1525 posts

loco4olas

NSW, 1525 posts

11 May 2009 1:52pm

Evidence of ego beating out intelligence.....

loco4olas

NSW

1525 posts

loco4olas

NSW, 1525 posts

11 May 2009 2:13pm

Marty settle down, you're dealing with "Paul Jackson - Australian Kitesurfing Champion" www.kitesurfinggoldcoast.com.au/

More respect bra'.

paul.j

QLD

3381 posts

paul.j

QLD, 3381 posts

11 May 2009 3:12pm

SICK, i'm famous

sausage

QLD

4874 posts

sausage

QLD, 4874 posts

11 May 2009 4:31pm

poor relative said...

paul.j said...

come on PR i'm a super star, just ask me

He needs a bigger kite to stop him from falling off his chair.

[running away now]

waveslave

4263 posts

waveslave

WA, 4263 posts

11 May 2009 8:58pm

marty72 said...

Yesterday afternoon I was walking on Mermaid Beach when I noticed a guy teaching someone to fly a kite right on the waters edge where all the people tend to walk, as I walked up to him I saw that the kite is about to stall and as I was carrying my infant son I stopped and fair enough the kite came crashing down in direct line where I would have been if I kept on walking. I hate to think what the consequences of this could have been if I got hit with a kite/lines while carrying a little baby! I asked the guy if he was a certified instructor or was a member of AKSA the answer was NO, don't need to be. Turns out he was an instructor from Kamikaze Kites, I told him that he shouldn't be teaching in this spot as he's putting other people in danger, teaching bad practices to newbies and one more incident can get us banned with the Council. I told him there is plenty of empty beach 10min. away at The Spit but he told me he was running short of time and didn't seam to think there was any problem, said they've been doing it there for sometime and continued doing what he was doing, I watched him for a while and saw the kite fall out of the sky a few more times.
I think that this sort behavior is totally unacceptable and should be stopped, I also don't understand why a large shop such as Kamikaze Kites allows it, surely its in their best interest not to get the sport banned from the local beach or maybe they just don't know any better?

I'm guessing this thread is less to do with safety.....
and more to do with keeping your local surfbreak open for kiting.
A clueless newbie dicking around on the beach at your local is an ugly sight for any wavekiter......
who truly values the privilege to kite there.
Wavekiting spots located at crowded public beaches are a finite resource.
They are not kite-flying beaches.
They are not for newbies to dick around on the beach flying stupid kites.

Factory

266 posts

Factory

WA, 266 posts

11 May 2009 10:43pm

that Kamikaze vid is really really sad.

Morg

QLD

129 posts

Morg

QLD, 129 posts

12 May 2009 8:49am

I think i'm starting to hate this forum

BTW: Smelly skater, nobody has forgotten that you are probably one of the top 3 worst trolls on the forum and a raging D!Ckhe@d as well.

My flame suit it thicker than yours i assure you.

metalmongrel

118 posts

metalmongrel

SA, 118 posts

12 May 2009 8:19am

There are safe responsible kiters that have a right to enjoy the sport without being members of an association.....this guy isn't one of them. The associations do not have the right to "chat" anyone, they are not the police. If theres a ban don't go there, if its a beach that requires association membership join or go somewhere that doesn't but don't suggest that being in an association somehow makes you a safer kiter.

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