Kite wear - Expected lifespan

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Rob S
Rob S
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10 Jan 2009 2:23pm
I would appreciate some comments from experienced kiters on kite wear and expected lifespan.

I learnt to kite using a couple of secondhand kites I purchased in 2007. They served me well while I was at that stage where I was crashing the kite fairly often. Once I was riding well and jumping I decided to buy my first brand new kite. June 2008. I bought a new kite thinking it would last a few years and it is still in excellent near new condition everywhere except for the sail material either side of the centre strut in the rear third towards the trailing edge. There are many short cracks right on the trailing edge about 30 mm long. I know this is typical of kites left on the beach to flog in the wind. I have never done this. There are also several cracks that are up to half a metre long but a bit further in from the trailing edge. They run parrallel to the trailing edge. These are large white lines that look like cracks in the material.

I have done a fair bit of kiting on this kite over the last 7 months. Could it be worn out this soon? How many flying hours is to be expected out of a new kite?
SammyJ
SammyJ
WA
571 posts
WA, 571 posts
10 Jan 2009 12:34pm
I've heard a kites life span is between 200-250 hours of use before you will start experiencing ongoing wear issues. contributing factors would be things like leaving it on the beach for extend time between sessions and the likes
myusernam
myusernam
QLD
6160 posts
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10 Jan 2009 11:16pm
i think if you only have a single kite they wear a lot quicker apart from the obvious you fly the kite in wind that's too strong for it and put it under heaps of stress.
I noticed a big improvement in longevity as i got better. Also the brand helps a lot i think. Certain brands and year makes are a lot less durable. After my horror run, durability and resale are my number one kite priorities. That said I had a single kite for a year and kited a lot all through the year and it was still in very good nick. So I would guess a couple of years before it's best to sell and still get some money back...
hawaii
hawaii
VIC
130 posts
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11 Jan 2009 1:56am
im riding 2007 rrd hypertypes - bought in 2006 and travel and kite a lot - its actually my 4th season on these and they have 100s of flying hours and are still in good condition - the 9m has some abrasion where the valve rubs - fixed with 2 cm of tape - could not recommend this brand enough- and im not in the industry at all
TurtleHunter
TurtleHunter
WA
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11 Jan 2009 11:52am
Not sure if this is your problem but I have noticed that all (that Ihave seen) the high depower kites seem to flutter mainly when sheeted out in too strong wind. It seems to have the same effect as leaving the kite on the beach.
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
3452 posts
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11 Jan 2009 3:07pm
Rob S said...

I would appreciate some comments from experienced kiters on kite wear and expected lifespan.

I learnt to kite using a couple of secondhand kites I purchased in 2007. They served me well while I was at that stage where I was crashing the kite fairly often. Once I was riding well and jumping I decided to buy my first brand new kite. June 2008. I bought a new kite thinking it would last a few years and it is still in excellent near new condition everywhere except for the sail material either side of the centre strut in the rear third towards the trailing edge. There are many short cracks right on the trailing edge about 30 mm long. I know this is typical of kites left on the beach to flog in the wind. I have never done this. There are also several cracks that are up to half a metre long but a bit further in from the trailing edge. They run parrallel to the trailing edge. These are large white lines that look like cracks in the material.

I have done a fair bit of kiting on this kite over the last 7 months. Could it be worn out this soon? How many flying hours is to be expected out of a new kite?



what kite are you talking about
pearl
pearl
NSW
984 posts
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11 Jan 2009 6:36pm
Lifespan would depend on;
-Amount of days/time used per season (no. of kites in quiver)
-Correct inflation usage
-If kite/struts are left inflated on beach, in car, or in the sun
-Where kite is used and landed (ie sand beach, estuary, grass, gravel)
-How often the kite is dropped hard or in the surf
-If the kite kite is stored dry and clean
-Brand of kite, material, stitching and colour

Bar and lines would be the first to go if the kite have had a good life, with assisted take off and landings on clean area. Friends have sold kites a season old that have rarely been dropped and are as new. I would guess an average of 2-3 years, but I like new ones
Rob S
Rob S
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11 Jan 2009 6:50pm
TurtleHunter said...

Not sure if this is your problem but I have noticed that all (that Ihave seen) the high depower kites seem to flutter mainly when sheeted out in too strong wind. It seems to have the same effect as leaving the kite on the beach.


I had not thought about fluttering in flight. I haven't noticed but will have a closer look next time.

Thanks for your input.

Here is a pic of the creases:




common 2868
common 2868
26 posts
26 posts
11 Jan 2009 7:40pm
200 hours??? Seriously guys...
I had my kite (will not tell the brand) but the colour was white (it is a valid point u will see) for 3 seasons . I used it and abused it for 4 seasons kiting in extremely sunny location (white and UV - not a good combination) Weather conditions allowed me to kite more than 320 days a year for at least 4 hours a day 4*(320*3)=3840 hours . This baby of mine was still in good shape and if I wouldn't loose it few years ago I would be still riding it.

Kite lifespan...treat your kite well and take it out of the sun whenever u finish riding and it will last and last and last....and last. Your prestretched dynema lines will wear quicker that the canopy on your kite :)))
hardhat
hardhat
QLD
44 posts
QLD, 44 posts
11 Jan 2009 9:21pm
I use that brands 05 fuels. Bought one for 200 dollars 2 years ago that looked like it had had a hard life and its still going strong. I would'nt worry about it. Can't figure out why guys feel they need new kites every season, dosn't make them kite any better.
Rhys McClintock
Rhys McClintock
NSW
995 posts
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12 Jan 2009 10:55am
That doesn't look to bad. Those lines on the trailing edge happen to most kites after a bit of use. Usually its just the colour gone out of a section and they don't get too much worse. They definately look as though it's from depowering the kite in high winds...

Keep checkin them every now and again, if you can see thru the material, put a patch on it. Otherwise keep on riding - Slingshot make strong kites and use top quality material so you'll be right
Rob S
Rob S
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391 posts
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12 Jan 2009 10:58am
common 2868 said...

200 hours??? Seriously guys...
I had my kite (will not tell the brand) but the colour was white (it is a valid point u will see) for 3 seasons . I used it and abused it for 4 seasons kiting in extremely sunny location (white and UV - not a good combination) Weather conditions allowed me to kite more than 320 days a year for at least 4 hours a day 4*(320*3)=3840 hours . This baby of mine was still in good shape and if I wouldn't loose it few years ago I would be still riding it.

Kite lifespan...treat your kite well and take it out of the sun whenever u finish riding and it will last and last and last....and last. Your prestretched dynema lines will wear quicker that the canopy on your kite :)))



That's a staggering number of hours. I would have guessed that a white kite would be much more sun resistant. White reflects much more solar radition than dark colors. And black would be the worst color for UV damage.

My kite lines, briddle lines, pulleys & chicken loop are in excellent condition. Only that sail material is cracked. I am interested to know if all kites are made of the same type and grade of sail material. It all looks the same to me.

I am convinced my damage / cracks in material is 'mechanically' caused. Not from flapping on the beach (I don't do that). Not from age as it's just 7 months old and done less than 100 hours. Maybe the quality of the material? Or perhaps something in the way I fly it? But I can't imagine what. I wanted to get out and have a close look to see if the canopy flaps or vibrates in flight. Maybe today.


Rhys McClintock
Rhys McClintock
NSW
995 posts
NSW, 995 posts
12 Jan 2009 11:02am
SS uses the same material everyone else does. I know Cabrinha uses a different material on their Crossbow IDS leading edges, but everything else i've seen looks the same or very similar in material grade.

What model kite is it? High depower kites like the Turbo all do it eventually...
walshd
walshd
SA
601 posts
SA, 601 posts
12 Jan 2009 10:35am
Rob S said...

TurtleHunter said...

Not sure if this is your problem but I have noticed that all (that Ihave seen) the high depower kites seem to flutter mainly when sheeted out in too strong wind. It seems to have the same effect as leaving the kite on the beach.


I had not thought about fluttering in flight. I haven't noticed but will have a closer look next time.

Thanks for your input.

Here is a pic of the creases:







I wouldn't worry about it too much. Cabrinha kites come like this brand new

You better off keeping a close eye on your canopy for nics and scratches or any cuts to set off a rip.

Rob S
Rob S
VIC
391 posts
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12 Jan 2009 11:05am
Rhys Porter said...

That doesn't look to bad. Those lines on the trailing edge happen to most kites after a bit of use. Usually its just the colour gone out of a section and they don't get too much worse. They definately look as though it's from depowering the kite in high winds...

Keep checkin them every now and again, if you can see thru the material, put a patch on it. Otherwise keep on riding - Slingshot make strong kites and use top quality material so you'll be right


Thanks Rhys.
Hope it is only the color but will keep an eye on it. I think I get it. If I depower to much in high winds the trailing edge will flap and can cause the damage. Right?
Rob S
Rob S
VIC
391 posts
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12 Jan 2009 11:08am
Rhys Porter said...

SS uses the same material everyone else does. I know Cabrinha uses a different material on their Crossbow IDS leading edges, but everything else i've seen looks the same or very similar in material grade.

What model kite is it? High depower kites like the Turbo all do it eventually...


It's an 11 metre REV
lotofwind
lotofwind
NSW
6451 posts
NSW, 6451 posts
12 Jan 2009 7:44pm
Is there anything you can put on your kite to keep it nice and crisspy new.???
Like putting polish on your car to seal it from the elements.???
ezza
ezza
NSW
561 posts
NSW, 561 posts
12 Jan 2009 9:39pm
I have resigned myself to practically killing my kite by the end of my first season as a learner... am so happy now that i bought an ex-demo instead of a brand new kite in my WILD enthusiasm when i first started kiting. When you think about the hours of enjoyment you get for the cost of your gear it's a really inexpensive sport
bennie
bennie
ACT
1258 posts
ACT, 1258 posts
12 Jan 2009 9:57pm
200 hours??? Seriously guys...
I had my kite (will not tell the brand) but the colour was white (it is a valid point u will see) for 3 seasons . I used it and abused it for 4 seasons kiting in extremely sunny location (white and UV - not a good combination) Weather conditions allowed me to kite more than 320 days a year for at least 4 hours a day 4*(320*3)=3840 hours . This baby of mine was still in good shape and if I wouldn't loose it few years ago I would be still riding it.

Kite lifespan...treat your kite well and take it out of the sun whenever u finish riding and it will last and last and last....and last. Your prestretched dynema lines will wear quicker that the canopy on your kite :)))

Common, I am curious where you live, that you can kite 320 days a year? sounds awesome. I live in nsw and I reckon we get about between 150-200 kiteable days a year.
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