A message to the 4 kitesurfers at the Spot this morning. I rolled up about 10.45am to see 1 green airush, 1 yellow/brown 15m fuel, 1 pink/white Best Yarga Pro, and a yellow/white airush lift caneing the waves just to the right of the keyhole & to the right of the carpark where the lids generally surf. No lids there which was OK.
All was fine and dandy.
Then the Green Airush, Fuel and the Best decided it a good idea to go hassel the surfers at the spot for waves, whom mind you, were in the water long before the kiters got there and proceded to cut through the lineup putting in danger two grommet beginners who are sons of locals and who are NOT IMPRESSED.
I,ve got a whole load of pics of these kiters.
I am a surfer and a kiter. I surf the spot regularly and I kite up here too but not near the surfers area unless it is blown out and no surfers are in the water. A matter of common sense, courteousy and respect for both sports really!!. There are a lot of places to kite here that are fun and do not involve annoying the local surfers . One of the local surfers had a chat with a couple of the kiters and was hit with the crass attitude of I can kite wherever I like. This kind of dailog and attitude from a minority is what creates bad blood and tension for kiters both in the eyes of the public and other coast users. By and large kiters have good common sense, awareness and respect for others due to the extreme nature of the sport but we don,t want to start having launching closures forced on us as has happened in a lot of the UK, Spain, France and the USA because of an unwillingness to show a bit of courtesy,consideration and respect for others. To the kiters at the spot today I say this.
The kiting community is a tight nit community and word travels quickly. People from beaches, shops, forums, know of you and it only takes a few pics to expose you and your antics to others. This is not a threat of any sort but a little wakeup call because in being ( for want of a better word ) Silly you jeopardise the kiting fun for the whole kiting community and if that means launch closures, prohibitions and such like then you have to answer to the kiting community at large,
Get My Drift?

We polesurfed the Spot at Yanchep 20 years ago.
Wavesailing at the Spot is not new.

The surfers have the morning shift and clock-off at 20 knots.
The afternoon shift is reserved for windfreaks and surfers/spongers who love the seabreeze.

Learn to share the ocean.

Regards,
slave

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My name is Carl Bevilacqua and I was riding the Pink Yarga Pro.

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LMFAO "my names Mike and i'm an alcoholic"

Seriously, share the break, can't understand why anyone would have wanted to surf in those winds yesterday, bizarre.

The guys you remark on are darn good at what they do, and i doubt that they would have acted in a manner that would have brought Kiting into disrepute as they are very easily identifiable and are well aware of the dangers involved.

Sad though, surfers worldwide have always been a bit precious when it comes to sharing breaks.

we have this problem in brazil. kiters always make nuisance on surfers at local beach breaks, so surfers run away with kiters girlfreinds. idiots

... and how many times have I made the kn trip to the Spot for a surf to find you local c~nts blocking off the carpark and having a comp so no kn one else can have a surf

kn pricks!

and fats, bit early to say you kitesurf isn't it - blaming your equipment already

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13206

i too was there and at the carpark when i got an earfull as soon as i pulled a kite out of the back.
typical surfie territorial attitude.
i can back up for the boys as it is hard to be nice when someone comes in ur face screaming abuse at you.
yes the surfers have had it for a long time and yes they will continue to have it when it is great conditions.
i dont know why you guys are so worried it will get stolen when the only time kiters will ride it is when it is onshore and blown out.
it is a shame there is such attitude.
even more when you see that a heap of surfers were friendly as on the day and helpful for returning boards in the shorey and sayin gday and stuff, how it should be, take note mr Boardrider.

youse are all undercover cops ay bruz.

Mike & Carl
Ta for the reply and thoughts and sorry for the abuse. Wasn't me as such but understandable under the circumstances of them being in the water and surfing before you guys arrived.
Waves were there to be had which is why they were there in the first place.Best known wave break in Perth which has been a surfing spot for 30yrs+
I know you guys are very good at what you do as I saw it first hand and am impressed and I have some good shots of you having a great time which is why I don't understand the need to cut through the surfers line up when you have the experience that you do and plenty of waves to the right of the carpark. Of course the surfers felt threatened when kites have the power that they do and it is well known that things do sometimes go horribly wrong no matter how good you are.
Would you not feel saftey issues if put in the same position?
I don't want a **** fight as it is not necessary.
The issues were simply cutting through the lineup, unecessarily, fair point and plenty of places to kite without annoying people already in the water also a fair point.

Wave slave
What is pole surfing anyway?
Haven't seen a wave sailor up here for yonks and yonks.
Where did the so called Morning/arvo shifts come from?
no one up here including longtime locals have heared of any such thing.
The Two Rocks board riders club hold surf comps on the 1st sunday of every month during the winter season which is not much to ask from 30 or 31 days in most months. So the profanity is uncalled for.

The kiter/s in the carpark who were not part of the 4 guys agreed with the surfers that it was bad form on the water from what I heared so if anyone abused you it was because of tension built up before you got there and I expect not directed at you personally.

Many people will have some sort of greivance in these circumstances and these forums are a good way to express opinions and encourage constructive criticism and move things on for the better with sensible dialogue.
For those with TOURETTS SYNDROME ( The need to use profanity incessently in conversation ) find another forum. It's not needed here.

milosh???? Please turn that rabble into english.

yes fats, i agree and agreed on the day. if there are surfers out then it isnt right to go thru the lineup, i didnt see them do that tho.
it does happen every day here at scabs tho...
just is a little offputting when someone is goin all agro when you get out of the car.
but anyways, hopefully kiters and surfers can share the great place.
i think the carpark is a sic wave for kiting.

Good advertising!

Bet the spot will soon be infested by heaps of aspiring wave kitees.
Think Ill try it tomorrow! Much closer than Lanos!

Me and my 47 kiting mates are on our way,sounds like a good spot.We are all out of control newbies.Thanx for the info on the spot,c ya soon

never tried, but wouldn't Derrs be a better option than the Spot anyway (at least when there is a bit of swell)?

- better beach to launch from
- no inside reef

Kiters.
It seems that my actions have peed off a lot of people which I did not intend to do. I sincerely apologize to anyone to whom my actions have caused any kind of grief. I believed I was being helpfull in some way at the time which I apparently was not.I made a mistake and I have humiliated myself to the kiting community and am profoundly embarrassed and sorry.
It won't happen again!
Rest assured I will never again post any opinions or observations I may have or have seen in order to not cause problems.
I have been taught a valuable and sobering lesson from the kiting community and learnt a lot about the way the community feels and thinks which has truly been a humbling experience and affected me I hope in a positive way to which I am greatful.
To the 4 kiters I also apollogize profusely for my actions and wish you all safe & good kiting in the future.
If I have caused any bad feelings between the kiting and Surfing communities For this I am also sorry and agrieved.
I truly hope all can get along.

Honestly sorry folks

Fats

You would be jealous too if you spent of an hour on the water: 5 min surfing, 35 min paddling and 20 minutes shark baiting out the back waiting for waves. All the while wtching kiteboarders catch wave after wave

Surfing is great when there is no wind and it is a great thrill, when its heas windy though i think the fun is to be had on the kites.

No worries Fats , no real harm done .

Only thing is you will probably see a few more kiters there .

The morning and afternoon shift was set up at Margs main break . This was because windsurfers could get on the wave first and backdoor the peak thereby taking all the set waves .
This is why I stayed on the shoulder and picked of what you guys missed as you all seem to be struggeling enough with that crosschop on the face at the takeoff point .

Unfortunately we have become used to kiting , what seems relatively close for surfers , to them . However when anywhere near someone I always ride with very little power in the kite and slowly unless doing bottom turns around the back of guys that are paddeling out , in which case I am downwind of them .

Maybe if you could let the guys know who were concerned about this about the physics of that and that in those situations we pose very little danger to them .

Thank you for your efforts to resolve this .

Regards
Mike