Kiter off Brighton Vic - lost kite = search

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RiskyBusiness
RiskyBusiness
WA
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21 Jul 2015 12:45pm
Hey Guys.

If you lost your kite please contact police as there are currently three vessels and three helicopters looking for a kiter off Brighton.

Water Police have pulled in a 9M white and yellow kite with bar attached. Lines are wound up on bar, inflated kite is new with lines chocked on bar ends rather than bar ends. Not sure what brand, never seen it before, cheap style kite with a 6/9 on it. No owners details on kite.

If it's yours please contact water police as considerable effort is being spent looking by Victoria Police, Metropolitan Fire Brigade and Ambulance Victoria.

Was out paddle boarding at the time. Saw one kite early on a yellow naish then a orange cab after.

Hope it turns out well.
Take care when kiting gusty days.
Peace
sirstomp
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21 Jul 2015 3:23pm
Just saw it on the ABC News website too, its just been updated saying search called off, with emergency services believing the gear was ditched and rider swum ashore...
www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-21/search-called-off-for-kite-surfer-believed-missing-melbourne-bay/6636796

Definitely a bit of wind about today, hope all is good...
The photo on ABC shows a 9m Cloud kite (strutless)

Interesting Seabreeze thread on those below...

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/General/Kiteboarder-review-of-the-Cloud-strutless-kites/
Peterc150
Peterc150
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21 Jul 2015 4:11pm
Here is a photo of the kite found. The search has been called off, kitesurfer presumed to have made it to shore.

If you know who owns this contact Victoria Police.

And if you haven't done so already, write your name and phone number on all kites and boards with texta





speedy87
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21 Jul 2015 6:01pm
Or eaten by a shark while attempting a self rescue???!
Gazuki
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21 Jul 2015 4:17pm

I was thinking the same, isn't the point of a lost person search to search for the missing person?? Not look for 45mins then call the search off because you cant find them,. LOL!
nigelw2
nigelw2
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21 Jul 2015 6:26pm
Just read the ABC report.
Who swims in after a self rescue, leaves their gear and goes home telling no one?
Can anyone confirm the owner of the gear made it to shore?
SHQ
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21 Jul 2015 6:34pm
I was windsurfing for three hours at Green Point and the police were in the air and on the water the whole time. I tried to tell them on the water that I'd seen the guy on the beach safe and sound waving goodbye to his gear as I figured that must have been what they were up to but I couldn't get close enough to their boat to get the message across. Pretty sure 3 helicopters flying around for 3 hours is going to cost a bit more than Bronwyn Bishop's little joyride.
harry potter
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21 Jul 2015 7:25pm
For gods sake people....... If you ditch you gear make a call to police and notify them.... saves a lot of time , money and bad publicity
dafish
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21 Jul 2015 8:21pm
maybe he won't come forward on the chance he will get hit with a higher bill than the cost of the kite. I agree totally with Harry, PLEASE be responsible. Make the call. I lost a surfboard at sea once and made the call so no body would be looking for a drowned body. Somehow by luck I recovered the board two weeks later.
RiskyBusiness
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WA
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21 Jul 2015 6:25pm
100% don't get a bill. It is picked up by state authority or AMSA
noodelsrominov
noodelsrominov
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21 Jul 2015 11:29pm
If it was me and I hadn't called already I'd call now and try and get my gear back....
cauncy
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21 Jul 2015 10:25pm
Kites have serial numbers, if you buy new you register that kite for warranty, phoning the company might give you the owners details,
dafish
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22 Jul 2015 5:14am
Being a Cloud they would contact Greg from BRM, and for sure he would know who bought it. That guy is second to none when it comes to working with his clients. Hard to believe the dude has not come forward yet as it is not a cheap kite, and by the looks of it, he has a BRM bar too. Top shelf gear, top shelf price.
geordieboy
geordieboy
WA
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22 Jul 2015 6:05am
the owner is a toss pot as far as im concerned should have made a call
antlanglands
antlanglands
WA
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22 Jul 2015 6:17am
Theres a BIG Donation waiting to be made to emergency services right there. Maybe they should auction the kite....
Loftywinds
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22 Jul 2015 11:01am
dafish said..
Being a Cloud they would contact Greg from BRM, and for sure he would know who bought it. That guy is second to none when it comes to working with his clients. Hard to believe the dude has not come forward yet as it is not a cheap kite, and by the looks of it, he has a BRM bar too. Top shelf gear, top shelf price.


Unless it was stolen, not reported yet (owner overseas?), and the thief tried to use it, lost control, and dumped it?!

Just a theory. :)
Peterc150
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22 Jul 2015 11:44am
I advised the Water Police that user SHQ had seen the kiter on the shore. Got some feedback from them.

They eventually managed to establish that the kitesurfer made it in and called off the search.

They do get a few of these jobs and activate all assets straight away whilst establishing the safety/whereabouts of the missing person.

They often get people telling them they saw the MP make it in but until they have confirmation or are confident of witness evidence then they continue to search.

Their job would be MUCH easier if the kitesurfer involved or someone else rang triple 0 to let them know he/she was OK.

And yes, they also may check Seabreeze - but don't rely on this.

If in doubt, call it in. You may save $thousands. Air time for choppers is very expensive and best avoided.

Fly on da wall
Fly on da wall
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22 Jul 2015 11:24am
If you are related to Bronwyn Bishop it's not a problem though!
dusta
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22 Jul 2015 10:34am
Peterc150 said..


Their job would be MUCH easier if the kitesurfer involved or someone else rang triple 0 to let them know he/she was OK.




you don't ring 000 , 000 is for live threatening emergencies . That is the worst advice i have heard

you call this number

Water Police Squad and Rescue Coordination Centre
100 Nelson Place
Williamstown, VIC, 3016
Phone (03) 9399 7500 (24 hours)
dusta
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22 Jul 2015 10:35am
cauncy said..
Kites have serial numbers, if you buy new you register that kite for warranty, phoning the company might give you the owners details,


you register a kite for warranty ?


Peterc150
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22 Jul 2015 3:55pm
I can confirm that it OK to ring 000 (and ask for Police) for emergency related matters. The operator will route the call to the appropriate Police resource.

There is a common misconception that you only dial this number when there is "grave and imminent danger" - when actually the Police would prefer to get an important/relevant call early so they can take appropriate action early.

As an alternative, you can call Water Police (in Vic) on (03) 9399 7500 if you have that number - but only for water or SAR related emergencies (not other Police matters).

ryebloke
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22 Jul 2015 4:13pm
Peterc150 is spot on, for VicPol matters anyway.

000 is for police attendance (urgent or non urgent) as 000 is the only place that can dispatch the unit.

If you call the local station, all they do is call 000 on your behalf.

Call the local station for a general enquiries.
skywalker3d
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22 Jul 2015 4:31pm
Thats good info to know thanks for that.
cauncy
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22 Jul 2015 3:42pm
dusta said...
cauncy said..
Kites have serial numbers, if you buy new you register that kite for warranty, phoning the company might give you the owners details,


you register a kite for warranty ?





Yep, 1st thing I do, pays dividends, I managed to wrap my bridle around my dump valve which ripped it off the bladder, phoned flexifoil and asked how much for a new bladder as it was my cock up, doesn't matter they said as your whole kites under warranty wether it was my fault or not, 2 days later free bladder arrived with a few freebies and a thank you for choosing flexifoil, also when scum rob your gear like at kitestock it makes the cops job easier, Robo and myself went to some effort to prove they'd stolen some gear , an id number would of speeded up the process
Beersy
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22 Jul 2015 6:08pm
dusta said..


Peterc150 said..


Their job would be MUCH easier if the kitesurfer involved or someone else rang triple 0 to let them know he/she was OK.





you don't ring 000 , 000 is for live threatening emergencies . That is the worst advice i have heard

you call this number

Water Police Squad and Rescue Coordination Centre
100 Nelson Place
Williamstown, VIC, 3016
Phone (03) 9399 7500 (24 hours)



Having worked for 000, I can tell you the police wouldn't mind a call saying "don't worry about saving me, I'm already saved" as it gives them something to tell all the passersby who call it in. Nobody is going to remember the water police number in this sort of situation, and the quickest way to get information through is to call 000.

Don't call in nuisance calls, but you're not gonna go to gaol, or even be chastised for this type of call.

Edit- Just saw your response Peter- spot on.
SHQ
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22 Jul 2015 7:18pm
Peterc150 said..
I advised the Water Police that user SHQ had seen the kiter on the shore. Got some feedback from them.

They eventually managed to establish that the kitesurfer made it in and called off the search.

They do get a few of these jobs and activate all assets straight away whilst establishing the safety/whereabouts of the missing person.

They often get people telling them they saw the MP make it in but until they have confirmation or are confident of witness evidence then they continue to search.

Their job would be MUCH easier if the kitesurfer involved or someone else rang triple 0 to let them know he/she was OK.

And yes, they also may check Seabreeze - but don't rely on this.

If in doubt, call it in. You may save $thousands. Air time for choppers is very expensive and best avoided.



I should have mentioned that when I finished windsurfing I did manage to catch up with some Police in the carpark who confirmed they were looking for a kiter based on receiving some calls that someone was in trouble and the fact they'd found the kite.

I explained to them what I'd seen and they pretty much stopped the search straight after that.

Pity I couldn't get closer to the Police boat and save them a few hours - I just got the thumbs up from the police on the boat so I assumed everything was OK and they were doing some sort of training drill.

Pretty major waste of money but at least no one was hurt - actually someone came into the shop and said a kiter had died at Brighton - funny how rumours spread!

Anyway, let the authorities know if you ditch your gear... even better, make sure you know how to self rescue - practise at least once a year when your life doesn't depend on it so that you know exactly what to do when things get nasty.

Stay safe
RPM
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22 Jul 2015 6:56pm
Gotta be a "pilot Pete" award right there
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22 Jul 2015 8:37pm
Just an update, I am the kiter in question. I have contacted the water police, spoke and debriefed with Mark Bates who was extremely helpful. Thankyou to all involved in the search and to forum members who tried to clarify the situation via the forum.

i must appologise to all concerned and have to own the fact I was a monumental ass and totally unaware of the chain of events I set in place. First up though, my learning from this........

1) I should have contacted water police 1st to advise there could be a hazard.
2) my contact details written on the kite would have also prevented this.

For absolute clarification I was kiting off Brighton Beach, on new kite I was stoked to own and super keen to try out on the bay. I inadvertently jagged the safety detach in a strong northerly. My kite flew off and I was some 300-400m from shore. A long cold swim with my Paipo/Shinnster to shore and I could barely see the outline of the kite. I rushed to green point and gave it a shot to swim for it, a few poeple were watching but the kite took off again. Another long swim, and by the time I got to shore I could no longer see the kite. As it is a strutless BRM cloud I felt it may have twisted in its lines popped and sunk.......or was far out in the bay.

i went home, took off to work and was totally unaware of the search etc that took place until I read the post here this evening.

without doubt my dumbest moment. I own that. some things, like this make sorry a totally inadequate concept.

great sport, great crew wherever I have been and hope my actions haven't damaged our reputation in a lasting way. I will front the water police in person tomorrow because it's the least I can do.....huge respect for the job they do.

Regards to all
richard



harry potter
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22 Jul 2015 11:08pm
^^^ big props for owning it Richard.
Think about it like this .... You caused a big search and cost a lot of money and time
BUT...
By this simply being here on the forum the next bloke and the one after that will most probably report their abandoned gear thus saving a lot of effort time and money ... So in a way you being the donkey has actually probably saved time effort and money in the long run

Hope you get your gear back and get out again soon
cauncy
cauncy
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22 Jul 2015 9:10pm
HamptonLocals said..
Just an update, I am the kiter in question. I have contacted the water police, spoke and debriefed with Mark Bates who was extremely helpful. Thankyou to all involved in the search and to forum members who tried to clarify the situation via the forum.

i must appologise to all concerned and have to own the fact I was a monumental ass and totally unaware of the chain of events I set in place. First up though, my learning from this........

1) I should have contacted water police 1st to advise there could be a hazard.
2) my contact details written on the kite would have also prevented this.

For absolute clarification I was kiting off Brighton Beach, on new kite I was stoked to own and super keen to try out on the bay. I inadvertently jagged the safety detach in a strong northerly. My kite flew off and I was some 300-400m from shore. A long cold swim with my Paipo/Shinnster to shore and I could barely see the outline of the kite. I rushed to green point and gave it a shot to swim for it, a few poeple were watching but the kite took off again. Another long swim, and by the time I got to shore I could no longer see the kite. As it is a strutless BRM cloud I felt it may have twisted in its lines popped and sunk.......or was far out in the bay.

i went home, took off to work and was totally unaware of the search etc that took place until I read the post here this evening.

without doubt my dumbest moment. I own that. some things, like this make sorry a totally inadequate concept.

great sport, great crew wherever I have been and hope my actions haven't damaged our reputation in a lasting way. I will front the water police in person tomorrow because it's the least I can do.....huge respect for the job they do.

Regards to all
richard





take a carton with you, works a treat
Chris6791
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22 Jul 2015 9:11pm
nigelw2 said..
Just read the ABC report.
Who swims in after a self rescue, leaves their gear and goes home telling no one?
Can anyone confirm the owner of the gear made it to shore?




It happens every few weeks or so in Perth over summer, sea searches for people who have ditched, swum in, gone home and not told anyone thst their gear is still out there.

good on ya Hampton for posting on here.

And as as said by others there is no dramas ringing Triple Zero and notifying Police if you ditch and swim in, contacting you state's Water Police is a better option but advising Police through Triple Zero is just as good.
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