Kiting after dislocated shoulder injury advice?

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superlizard
superlizard
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VIC, 702 posts
3 Jul 2008 9:47am
I friend of mine is interested in taking up kiting, but she had a dislocated shoulder injury in the past, and is worried that kiteboarding might be too dangerous considering her weakened shoulder joint.

So i was wandering if anyone has any advice?

I'm trying to recall if i ever felt a stress in the shoulder area whilst kiting, but can't recall ever experiencing any sudden kicks, pulls or stress on that part of the body. But then again, I'm an advocate of taking a vigilant approach and finding as much info and advice before making any decisions.

Thanks

Paul1
Paul1
QLD
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QLD, 1011 posts
3 Jul 2008 9:55am
I have dislocated my shoulder in the past, and it can still easily slip out if I play tennis or squash. I have never had a single problem with it kiting, even doing unhooked tricks. I would recommend doing some sort of exercises to strengthen the muscles around the shoulder though.
NSW, 4382 posts
3 Jul 2008 9:57am
Tell her to do some weight training. Talk to a physio or doc knowledgeable in that type of injury first.
Fly power kites a lot (thats all I ever did)
Had a dislocated shoulder and fractured humerus at the same time when I was 15, major reco to put it back together (3 ops) never had any issue with it other than some arthritis (nothing really).

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve
sunseeker
sunseeker
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3 Jul 2008 10:13am
A mate of mine who has been kiteboarding for about 4 years has had dislocated shoulder problems and recently had a situation in the surf where the shoulder popped out again. The risk is when you extend your arm and land in the water or get pummelled around in the surf.

So it all depends on how you do the sport. If your friend is happy to just cruise around on flat water then there should be no problems. If she starts to get more extreme then there could be a problem.
walshd
walshd
SA
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SA, 601 posts
3 Jul 2008 10:11am
Yep i aggree with sunseeker. Flying the kite and cruising around shouldnt hurt it if the kite has light bar pressure.

What kills my shoulder is my stupid habbit to put my right arm out before a wipeout. Most of the time it saves me from slipping the board out and crashing but it just about rips my arm out of its socket.
Paul1
Paul1
QLD
1011 posts
QLD, 1011 posts
3 Jul 2008 10:43am
walshd said...

Yep i aggree with sunseeker. Flying the kite and cruising around shouldnt hurt it if the kite has light bar pressure.

What kills my shoulder is my stupid habbit to put my right arm out before a wipeout. Most of the time it saves me from slipping the board out and crashing but it just about rips my arm out of its socket.


Yeah, I do that sometimes as well, can't stop myself.
superlizard
superlizard
VIC
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3 Jul 2008 11:30am
Thanks for the advice guys... basically what i'm gathering is for flat water riding, she should be generally ok (given the right bar setup)... which is what i thought...

Kitepower said to fly powerkites a lot to improve the strenght of the joint. Did you mean trainer foil kites or LEIs? Because i also fly foils on land sometimes, and those things are way more unstabile and jerky than the LEIs on the water... especially if using handles instead of the bar - i.e. my entire back and shoulders hurt for days after a gusty session.
GreenPat
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3 Jul 2008 12:59pm
Any kiteflying will help, so will exercises targeted at the rotator cuff - keeping those muscles strong is the key to holding the shoulder in its socket while kiteboarding. A physio can give you a list of good ones, I find the stretchy band ones good because you can do them every night and every morning in the bedroom - I have a stretchy band tied to the door handle.

Flat water riding will be fine and I have had almost no problems with mine in gusty 25+ knots and storm swell either - only once when I'd been neglecting my exercises for a few months beforehand. I have subluxated both shoulders multiple times and the joints are as sloppy as the steering in my mate's 1967 XR Falcon was, but while it's rusting on the side of the Nullarbor somewhere I'm still kiting unhooked and wakeboarding 4 years on.
vendetta
vendetta
NSW
11 posts
NSW, 11 posts
3 Jul 2008 1:54pm
Hey,

I dislocated my should very badly beginning of last year kiting at Dolls. Even in my sleep i would dislocate my shoulder. I had a full open reconstruction on it with 6 months of recovery building up the shoulder ready for summer. I have kited on it since due the summer just gone and it works fine with no problems. Just make sure that you see the Physio to build up the shoulder again.

Nick
SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales
WA
1913 posts
WA, 1913 posts
3 Jul 2008 6:26pm
KitePower has nailed it...

Controlled weight or resistance style rehab exercises MUST always follow this type of trauma to the joint. More specifically as others have expressed there is a time factor (if rehabed) before full rotational use MAY be regained without discomfort on certain angles..

Essentially the new 1 day old nerve endings that grow & control muscle / joint movement, will not know how to stabilise properly unless trained (This is why a rolled ankle wants to keep rolling for a while)

It is the nature of our sport that we fly in gusty (not constant) winds - getting used to bending the knees to "instinctively" absorb this effect will further reduce the Shoulder strain tendancy.

It is also true that younger people (u18) will normally recover faster,
and also true
after the third Dislocation - the joint will never quite work the same again !!!

So the questions she should consider are:

1. How long since injury - more the better..
2. Physio or rehab training - without the joint will be quite weak
3. Kiteboarding is fun and will always be there for her - if she needs more time.
4. Please take advice from QUALIFIED rehab people - its preventative medicine

It is a nice gesture to look after your friends, without saying

.............................She'll be right mate............................

Cheersz
NSW, 4382 posts
3 Jul 2008 8:59pm
superlizard said...

Thanks for the advice guys... basically what i'm gathering is for flat water riding, she should be generally ok (given the right bar setup)... which is what i thought...

Kitepower said to fly powerkites a lot to improve the strenght of the joint. Did you mean trainer foil kites or LEIs? Because i also fly foils on land sometimes, and those things are way more unstabile and jerky than the LEIs on the water... especially if using handles instead of the bar - i.e. my entire back and shoulders hurt for days after a gusty session.


Listen to what Save The Whales said first and foremost AND fly trainer kite sized power kites on land, before moving to anything bigger on land or water.

Specific exercises are needed, thats why you see the physio/rehab medico first, then you can fly kites if they ok it and she feels up to it.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve
superlizard
superlizard
VIC
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4 Jul 2008 9:18am
Thanks everyone. I think she will be pleased with very helpful feedback.
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