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GranG
GranG
WA
260 posts
WA, 260 posts
29 Nov 2007 10:26pm
I noticed my REV chicken loop line is fraying a bit, particularly at the cleat... I have put on some wax.... (Candle wax melted into the rope)... this is helping a little {The bar is still new - I have two bars and it happens on both bars}

I have a white chicken loop line on both bars.

I have noticed that some of the other REV kites on the beach have a "grey" chicken loop line and these don't seem to frey.

Is this just my imagination? If you have a white or grey chicken loop - care to comment?

Apparently the chickenloop replacement procedure is dead easy, but I'd rather not have to buy spare chicken loop lines too soon.

Absolutely love the kites.
dustin
dustin
QLD
448 posts
QLD, 448 posts
29 Nov 2007 11:46pm
apparently vaseline works. i just tried some of that slingshot drilube spray and it seems to be working so far
AdrianW
AdrianW
NSW
47 posts
NSW, 47 posts
30 Nov 2007 12:49am
Well I've got a gray one, and its not wearing excessively. I didn't even know you could get them in white! Maybe you could get them in pink if you wanted eh?

I guess the issue is not so much that it wears - some wear and tear is normal. From your description though it sounds like its wearing too much for its use. How many sessions have you been out on it so far?

Dustin - Dry Lube! Thats a good idea. I've got a can of that. Its not Slingshot though, do you think it'll be ok to use?

waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
WA, 4263 posts
29 Nov 2007 11:13pm
Aren't clam-cleats designed to chafe rope ?
I mean,
the cleat has teeth on both sides and then you jam that soft-rope in and out of the jaws,
and then it gets torqued-up under load from the centrelines.
It's on-going maintenance.
There must be a better way ?
joespencer
joespencer
QLD
167 posts
QLD, 167 posts
30 Nov 2007 10:03am
along the candle wax idea--- i'm trying bow string wax for archery strings- ---it is used to reduce fraying on bow strings running over pulleys, so should be better than the candle wax.

only just put it on last week and no wind since.
fozzy
fozzy
SA
501 posts
SA, 501 posts
30 Nov 2007 11:21am
I have only just bought my Rev (Grey line) and so can't comment on the wear too much at this stage. However I found my old Fuel suffered the exact thing you are talking about. Not sure what the thing is with the Slingshot lines/ropes, this and pigtails seem to wear excessively. Anyway, after replacing with genuine parts a couple of times I made up my own in the end using kernmantel rope (climbing rope) 11mm diameter. Whilst the rope isn't designed for this use it is very very strong, SWL of around 200kgs (breaking strain is around 1 tonne or more, don't quote me though as the memory is getting hazy but more than you'll need) and after considerable use has shown basically no signs of wear. If you go decide to go down this path you can get your hands on kernmantel ropes in any camping/climbing store. Not that exy either. The only point is the 11mm does lock into the cleat but can occasionally (not very often) pull out and therefore power up the kite. 8mm might be worth considering.
mergaTroy
mergaTroy
NSW
150 posts
NSW, 150 posts
30 Nov 2007 4:31pm
Hi GranG

First of all the Mambo wasn't the same without you and your bad ass santa hat at the pub. Simo and I still managed to visit the pub okay without you tho.....
My Rev with the grey line is fine and not wearing. I love the kite, Maybe your just too bloody massive and powerful for 100,000 pound white rope>>>>>>>>>

all the best mate

troy
GranG
GranG
WA
260 posts
WA, 260 posts
30 Nov 2007 4:24pm
Hey MegaTroy... I missed you guys too, but I had to take that lovely lady you met at Mambo'06 and go and get married to her over Movember in SAF Africa! {Its ok, there was lots of wind there too and waves}

Definately going to Mambo again next year... PS, I hope to see you guys at KiteStock?

PPS: The wearing of the white rope I would have classified as excessive for the 2 or 3 sessions I had... But you know, new kite, always overly observant... I think the grey lines already have a type of coating on them...
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
WA, 3619 posts
30 Nov 2007 5:50pm
GranG said...
I had to take that lovely lady you met at Mambo'06 and go and get married to her ..... Definately going to Mambo again next year...

If you're allowed that is

seriously though - congratulations (& well done I'd say )

SUNAMI
SUNAMI
NSW
90 posts
NSW, 90 posts
30 Nov 2007 7:57pm
the only problem with the rev is keeping it in the sky. mergatroy you will have to teach me champ
joespencer
joespencer
QLD
167 posts
QLD, 167 posts
30 Nov 2007 7:48pm
the archery wax on the centre lines seems to be working a treat- doesn't really stick to sand and after a couple hrs flying today , working the bar alot, no sign of any fraying.

It does make the active stopper, and the bar a bit stickier to push in and out though.... a bit strange at first...

Does anyone else find this kite takes extra effort to tell where it is by bar feel ?
Capt.Gumby
Capt.Gumby
QLD
354 posts
QLD, 354 posts
30 Nov 2007 9:11pm
Slightly off topic, but.....

Have any of you guys on the REV changed from the fuel? I have been an avid fuel fan for the past 5 years but have seriously been considering changing to the REV.

How is it for unhooked riding? Any comments would be appreciated.

Cheers


Josh K
Josh K
QLD
318 posts
QLD, 318 posts
30 Nov 2007 11:34pm
use surf wax.





human after alllllllllllllllllllll
fozzy
fozzy
SA
501 posts
SA, 501 posts
1 Dec 2007 12:13am
Capt.Gumby said...

Slightly off topic, but.....

Have any of you guys on the REV changed from the fuel? I have been an avid fuel fan for the past 5 years but have seriously been considering changing to the REV.

How is it for unhooked riding? Any comments would be appreciated.

Cheers





Hey Captain, I have a fuel as well which has now pretty much been retired. Have had the last 2 days out in 20-25 knots on my 11m Rev and I rate it highly. My whole progression is unhooked wakestyle which is why I chose the Rev and it hasn't disappointed. Very steady pull similar to the Fuels when unhooked. Very quick kite through the sky, direct feel at the bar and very stable. Just started landing backside handlepasses to blind and so long as your hands are centred it just sits where you place it. I don't get to do much wave riding so can't comment how it would fare on the wave face but I would imagine quite well. Certainly for unhooked tricks though I think you would be well happy, as am I.

Josh K
Josh K
QLD
318 posts
QLD, 318 posts
30 Nov 2007 11:48pm
yeh i mite get a rev. im a fuel man myself mite convertttttttt



one more timeeeeeeeeeeeee
Capt.Gumby
Capt.Gumby
QLD
354 posts
QLD, 354 posts
1 Dec 2007 11:01pm
How does the 13m Rev compare to a 13m Fuel? I have been told the 11m Rev has similar low end to a 13m Fuel. I weigh 90kgs (on a good day, usually more) and have always ridden a 13m Fuel, would you recommend the 11m or 13m Rev as a replacement? Our spot is waveless but throws up a decent kicker every now and then.

Again, any comments would be greatly appreciated as I am about to upgrade.

Cheers
fozzy
fozzy
SA
501 posts
SA, 501 posts
2 Dec 2007 12:14am
Well, we pretty much weigh the same (88-90 kgs) and I can get going from about 17-18 knots onwards. (Board is a 131 Thorn) Haven't really had the opportunity as yet to test top end but as indicated previously I am still very comfortable in 25 knots and unhooking. Not sure how this compares with the 13m fuel. My fuel was an 11m also. I would say unless your looking to get out in say 13 knots or thereabouts, the 13m could prove a little large, but I'm not sure of your conditions obviously. Hope this helps a little.
Ryland
Ryland
WA
1222 posts
WA, 1222 posts
2 Dec 2007 9:41am
i used to ride fuels but have converted to rev's and loving them in the surf. i weigh about 90kg and the 11m and 7m rev combo seems to be working perfectly.I get going on the 11m in about 12-13knts and hold the 7m up to about 30knts. I dont fly anything bigger than a 11m anymore and i personally dont think the 13m gets going that much earlier than the 11 due to how light the rev is to fly you can work it and get the 11m going in the same winds as the 13m but have more top end. as to line wear normally i found the first couple of times you use a new bar the chicken rope ruffens up abit but then will stay like that for months and not get any worse. GranG next time your at brighton show us your chicken rope, it sounds fairly normal and shouldn't get any worse
brucex
brucex
QLD
701 posts
QLD, 701 posts
2 Dec 2007 7:23pm
hey capt gumby
ryland is pretty right re size - and he is fat bastard like you!!!!
actually ryland is more like 95kgs after drinking and eating so much at mambo

the 13rev is slower than 13 fuel hence the 11 can generate good speed and power -
he and i both tried the 13 m in light winds at mambo and prefered the 11
however some bigger guys did well on the 13

if you like a fast kite just get the 11
Bruce
maramu
maramu
SA
28 posts
SA, 28 posts
3 Dec 2007 10:30am
DONT use surf wax, it makes the bar all sticky, hard to move in and out, and gets sand stuck to it, not good
I've got the grey rope and it's still looking very good, as GranG said looks like it already has some some of coating on it
GreenPat
GreenPat
QLD
4107 posts
QLD, 4107 posts
3 Dec 2007 10:08am
Josh K said...

yeh i mite get a rev. im a fuel man myself mite convertttttttt


Since when did you ride Fuels?
sunseeker
sunseeker
QLD
1203 posts
QLD, 1203 posts
3 Dec 2007 1:04pm
I used surf board wax on my Turbo Diesel and the lines lasted more than a year of heavy usage. Also, make sure that after you set up on the beach that as soon as you get in the water, wash all the sand off your bar setup before starting your session.
Hector
Hector
NSW
43 posts
NSW, 43 posts
3 Dec 2007 2:35pm
I ride 07 Fuels, and am considering going over to Revs.But i'm confused as to what sizes to get.I'm 83 kg ,ride 136 TT,6'2 and 6'6 surf boards.What would be a good two kite quiver? 11m & 7m or 13m & 9m?It might be a bit of a struggle in light wind on the 11m maybe.
Josh K
Josh K
QLD
318 posts
QLD, 318 posts
3 Dec 2007 2:21pm
ive been riding fuels for 2 years greenpat.
dustin
dustin
QLD
448 posts
QLD, 448 posts
3 Dec 2007 3:16pm
Hector said...

I ride 07 Fuels, and am considering going over to Revs.But i'm confused as to what sizes to get.I'm 83 kg ,ride 136 TT,6'2 and 6'6 surf boards.What would be a good two kite quiver? 11m & 7m or 13m & 9m?It might be a bit of a struggle in light wind on the 11m maybe.


g the 7 11 combo, thats what im on and it covers u for pretty much anything. The 11m turns so fast it pretty much has the same low end as the 13
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