Just watching some trends.
Is it time for a new flat water freestyle competition category? Strapless freestyle. What do you think, Rowdy?

If people want to do it then they need to get together and push it. I don't see a problem with it, it would be cool to have rails and a kicker included as well.

p.s. @IanR remind me of a time where I told everyone how "legit and progressive" I am... By your own standards you must be an even legiterer and progressiverer rider to judge people on such an aspect. Maybe you will be having arguments with Sebol at the comp .

Everyone have a look when this topic was started 1/4/2015 at 9.56am thats in April fools time frame.

IanR said..
@ Rowdy. BwaHaha...heehee
Mighty quick on the defensive there Alexander, your not reading my posts literally. Your seeing way more in them than there is.
Maybe stop doing "Tik" when your in Cape Town
More likely Sebol and I would be sharing a couple of drinks while you and Leo punch on. We both think your a McTool

Great work for your sponsors by the way you have just guaranteed I'll never buy a Ozone Kite or Axis board

Unlike you I don't have issues with anyone, I've actually met Leo and know what some people think of him, that however wouldn't stop me having a session and a beer with him afterwards. He does actually love kiteboarding, which is the important part.

Amazing how you think people are "McTools" but come across as the biggest tool yourself, constantly. You know someone is full of crap when they can't even put their name behind what they say.

p.s.
I'm simply crying that you wont buy any gear because of your own issues, hopefully you buy nothing at all so there's one less idiot on the water.

IanR said..
Ha ha Rowdy you really do think you know everything

I find it so much fun to work you up, your so predictable

Maybe you should explain to TerryMcTool the oz importer for Ozone about putting there name behind what they say.

It amuses me most that you think I'm "worked up", I love it, owning broken records like you over and over is a fun way to kill some free time.

The only predictable person here is you along with the other anonymous half-assed trolls, you've never thought of an original troll in your life and to top it off you can't even spell properly. I can see why you would remain anonymous.

I assume you mean "their name" right? I almost can't even understand what you're saying because you're that illiterate... I actually know Terry quite well, I don't need to explain to him anything.

Gee, that got off topic pretty quick! What's the point of even posting on this forum.

Its threads like this that make me wish mandatory user names to be printed on kites

Rich has been killing it for years.

Thanks Kit33r and Rowdy for the props! (I'm assuming you're talking about me not Sir Richie Branson)
Strapless comp would be fun but not sure there is enough interest by itself to get a comp going on its own and on flat water?? id prefer the waves. Maybe next years wave Nat's there could be a separate event for aerial tricks. Maybe they could change the usual wave comp rules of having to take off and land on the wave face- of course it is what everyone prefers to do but wind and wave angles don't always allow it.

And IanR, if you'd like to try my Ozone kite or Axis board I may let you have a go!!

Thanx for the maybe offer Rich.
You know I'm interested in the new axis board you're riding.
But I think the last time we tried any of each others gear was when you and your wife borrowed my trainer kite many years ago.

You have always been a great ambassador for what ever gear you ride and the sport in general.
For years people where not open minded enough to give you the props you deserve for the creativite way you rode a Skim boards at Mambo

Surely if they where to run a strapless freestyle comp the rules would have to be redefined. My question would be how would you deal with all the different types of boards people ride strapless, Skimboards, Wakeskates, Surfboards and that thing that KIT33R is riding, which is almost an amalgamation of all three

richierich said..
Thanks Kit33r and Rowdy for the props! (I'm assuming you're talking about me not Sir Richie Branson)
Strapless comp would be fun but not sure there is enough interest by itself to get a comp going on its own and on flat water?? id prefer the waves. Maybe next years wave Nat's there could be a separate event for aerial tricks. Maybe they could change the usual wave comp rules of having to take off and land on the wave face- of course it is what everyone prefers to do but wind and wave angles don't always allow it.

And IanR, if you'd like to try my Ozone kite or Axis board I may let you have a go!!

Yeah I meant Branson, sorry dude...

I think the future is events in waves for sure, that combined with an event or two on flat water with a small kicker and a rail. It could be a best of 2 or 3 events in different locations/ conditions. I think people are interested, but it would only be a small thing, just for the riders, not for the glory.

Judging a wave event with jumps on the way out is pretty intensive, I think you really need about 10 judges to make a professional level comp with those rules, the Dahlka World Tour wave event had 6 and I don't think it really worked properly. That being said if we were just doing a small scale thing and people didn't care so much I'm sure we could make it work with only a few judges, I think we would have to limit the number of people in heats to 2 though. This is a different thing to what we are talking about here though right? I mean that is focusing on riding waves, where we want to focus on progressing riding strapless and doing all sorts of stuff? right?

Different boards are definitely going to make things harder I think, for example doing a high air on a wakeskate with no grab is a much different thing to doing it on a light surfboard into the wind... then throw Rich on his Skimboard in the mix and you have a pretty hard thing to try and judge haha. Maybe it would be better to just have the whole thing as a fun expression session type thing with time slots allocated for different riders, then afterwards give out awards for different things people achieved. That's a good way to progress things I think.

Thanks JBFletch. Not many unstrapped freestylers in Sydney. Sure is a lot of fun especially when the wind is marginal. The Shinnster has made trying tricks in 12-18 knots a whole lot of fun.

JBFletch said..

KIT33R said...
Just watching some trends.
Is it time for a new flat water freestyle competition category? Strapless freestyle. What do you think, Rowdy?

airton organised and ran a comp with redbull.
was call UNFASTENED.
exactly what you are thinking

Not really what I was thinking. I'm thinking of something with all types of different craft and possibly a round with kickers and sliders as well to make it more interesting.

Just reading through the interview on Freedom Kitemag site about Keahi winning the first round of the VKWC in Dahkla, he says they are adding an "air" component to the judges scoring criteria (still being refined)
www.freedomkitemag.com/keahi-takes-out-world-tour-first-stop/

The is also a great section on hooked Vs unhooked, where he says he actually prefer to ride hooked most of the time and elaborates significantly about why.

I also like the idea of a free choice in strapless board style comp
But I think if you choose the right location with the right winds you don't need to put obstacles in the water
You can use waves as kickers and slide the crest of almost breaking waves (as I've seen rich do may times)

Not quite following you there Sebol. are you sure you're on the right topic?