Today’s Kitemare at Botany Bay – SEARCH FOR HERO!

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Crocofly
Crocofly
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8 Mar 2010 1:39am
Hi fellow kiters, to all you heroes out there! Most of you must have heard of the "accident of the blonde" today... yepp, it was me... and I am fully aware that this time (it works when the police cars stop me) my hair color doesn't help me escape any responsibilty of what happened today and you guys are talking about...

I am writing this post for 3 reasons:

- WHO IS HE????? - did an amazing thing today at Botany Bay

A) To search for a hero as I need to thank him appropriately (interpretation of appropriately is subject to be discussed)
B) To thank everyone who helped, scolded and instructed me afterwards (Nick: you are my instructor of choice!!!)
C) To describe what happened today in the hope that it helps to prevent this from happening to anybody who reads this
D) To express that I am deeply grateful that miraculously nothing bad happened and that I really feel ashamed – and I am still not giving up trying to learn kitesufing (as australian streets are not made for my former passion for 600F’s…)


- WHO IS HE????? -

Describing it in a short form (a couple of Gin and Tonic’s later): I have made 2 terrible fatal mistakes:
1) did launch the kite towards the street (instead the water)
2) did forget to hook myself in

So…: when the situation occurred that my new kite (bought 3 days ago – note: I actually bought this model – a NORTH EVO – because of his so-called fantastic relaunching capabilites – after having got stuck in the salty water so many times… why God didn’t you mix some sugar in it??? ) has been launched with the help of my new friend Sang “somehow” just “took off”, and I realized (thank God, Allah, Budda or whoever… I have been told by my instructor Nick: “if anything scary happens: PULL THAT SAFETY THINGY!”) that there was no “safety thingamagic” to pull!!! I let go of the bar as I was already flying towards the electricity wires (I admit: I saw the YOU-Tubes... After letting go the bar (obviously I like myself the most, typical leo…) I saw that lady at 11 o’clock where my kite was rushing towards to… I noticed with relieve that she saw my (evil) Evo heading towards her and took refuge let me adrenaline work and “let go mentally” (being fully aware of the fact that there are 4 lanes of traffic just THERE where it is flying towards to!!!!!)
Long story cut short: a hero
- WHO IS HE????? - (European appearance, white long sleeve top, black and white board shorts --#8594; WANTED!!!) – a person abstractectly run towards the street and must have picked up Evo from the 2nd line of the busy street. That’s the person I am trying to contact – please make yourself known. I believe you saved some lives today and I really want to make everybody aware of it. You just did it, gave me back my kite and went on… I wish I knew at least your name…)

- WHO IS HE????? - do you know him?

I herewith apologize to all the people that I frightened and I thank everyone who participated. I am really grateful that nothing worse happened. I risked a lot with all the stuff I have tried out in the last 34 years of m live (ask me about how lucky I was not hurting anybody on my skiing or motorbike accidents in Europe…) and I am really lucky to live in a caring community!

To everybody reading this: I REALLY feel ashamed that I forgot to hook myself in and ignored the fact that I stood at the wrong side of the beach, and I know that I am exceptionally lucky that I had fantastic people around me!!! Therefore, my neglectfulness did not cause any damage – not cause any accident on anyone on the beach, nor anyone driving along by car!!!

THANK YOU! To the person in White and Black: how can I contact you for sending you a couple of beers or so…. I am so sorry, I was so relieved and full of adrenaline that I forgot to REALLY recognize what you have done/avoided!

- WHO IS HE????? -

P.S. I the words of Mahalia Jackson (amazing grace): “I was blinded - but now I see”. Gosh, I was so sick of the Sydney weather - so I booked a flight to WA - and I had the time of my life... but now I'm back and all I want is to fly...

P.P.S. I wonder how you guys (the ones I usually observe from the secure cosy warm beach doing your amazing stunts jumping / flying in the air) DO IT!!! How???? All I want to do is to fly.... I have been trying for 3 months... what/how much more to give up???? I endured 3 months of bad weather, escaped a couple of weeks to WA (those stories are for another thread) and came back and made fatal mistakes that put many people at risk... shall I really focus on going back on a sailing boat just looking pretty and do what the skipper tells me to? I know that I can work hard even in bad weather but I don't care that came 1st in the race for the 2nd time - as I really would prefer to be able to fly with my kite...
okin
okin
QLD
83 posts
QLD, 83 posts
8 Mar 2010 7:34am
This story hurts my brain
tobes
tobes
NSW
1000 posts
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8 Mar 2010 9:07am
And you weren't using a kite leash.
Bigwavedave
Bigwavedave
QLD
2057 posts
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8 Mar 2010 9:21am
Who the hell sold you a kite???

Forgot to hook in? Forgot your leash?

Who the hell launched you? Why did they let it go?

So many questions????

One answer.......YOU NEED LESSONS!!!!!
FlySurfer
FlySurfer
NSW
4460 posts
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8 Mar 2010 12:12pm
Crocofly said...
I wonder how you guys (the ones I usually observe from the secure cosy warm beach doing your amazing stunts jumping / flying in the air) DO IT!!!

Simple... we learn from our mistakes. The titanium holding us together is a constant reminder too.

...in regard to the rest of your story, I didn't quite get it... so you launched the kite when you weren't hooked in, then let the bar go and the kite went in the parking lot?

windangoesoff
windangoesoff
NSW
280 posts
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8 Mar 2010 12:28pm
Crocofly said...

If I can give you anything: a little sunshine smile #9786;


What does this exactly mean ?

peanuticus
peanuticus
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8 Mar 2010 12:41pm
I'll second the need for the answer to the safety leash question.

glad no-one was hurt on this one. A tough lesson to learn and I'm sure you will never do it again. I would get a new partner to lauch your kite in future and take the time to check everything is ok before they launch you.
Lu
Lu
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Lu Lu
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8 Mar 2010 9:46am
ok so that story was so badly written i struggle to understand...
so...
1. you bought a new North Evo (that comes with a very good safty leash and a very effective chicken loop).

Then

2. you launched unhooked without said saftey attached to kite... and got dragged so let it go and then it was headed towards disaster???

Letting go was safe for you but if you had had your saftey it would have depowered the kite either by the front lines or the 5th making it safer for others as well. This also keeps it attached to you but fluttering uselessly with no power.

It is good that your are admitting your mistakes and are making a public appology and saying thanks to those who helped but i agree with others... Get lessons before trying again and really learn about all the saftey features of kites and how to use them and how the kite works with wind.

I am a learner as well but the first thing i was taught was saftey and how and why everything works the way it does so that i was a safer kiter. It may be expensive for you but dont kite without an instructor until you really know what your doing. And do some self rescues as well!!!
tmiddled
tmiddled
NSW
253 posts
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8 Mar 2010 1:13pm
Hi Vanessa,

I was kiting at Botany yesterday, but didn't see your accident.

The conditions were absolutely horrible yesterday. The gustiest conditions I have been out in in a while. Definately only for the more experienced riders.

Sounds like you are already getting lessons from Nick, an excellent instructor, so you are on the right track.

I suggest making a mental check EVERY TIME before you launch. Use any method you can that will stick in your head. A good one is using your fingers as key check points. i.e.
thumb = straight lines
index finger = all lines attached to kite
middle finger = safety attached to 5th/front line
pinkie = Hooked in
etc. etc, but as long as it works for you.

Anyway, you'll get there. Keep at it, see you on the water.
Tom
Trant
Trant
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601 posts
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8 Mar 2010 1:24pm
Crocofly said...
I have been told by my instructor Nick: “if anything scary happens: PULL THAT SAFETY THINGY!”)


I think she's already had lessons from the sound of it.

Vanessa,

1) We've all made bone headed mistakes in the past, yours was a bit more "eventful" than most but don't give up because of it

2) Attach that leash! It should be the first thing you do when you pick up your bar

3) Botany might not be the best place at the moment for you. Distance is your friend and you should be allowing yourself space for mishaps. It might be an idea to drive north or south on a weekend for your kiting sessions, and find a more open and less busy area (with a friend or two in tow of course ) It will be safer and less stressful for you and those around you
Check the NSWKBA website for some beginner friendly spots.

I'm also glad no one was hurt

J
Trant
Trant
NSW
601 posts
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8 Mar 2010 1:26pm
tmiddled said...
index finger = all lines attached to kite


A great example of a dumb mistake most of us have made at some point

Good post
kaleidoscope
kaleidoscope
NSW
132 posts
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8 Mar 2010 1:30pm
tmiddled said...
A good one is using your fingers as key check points. i.e.
thumb = straight lines
index finger = all lines attached to kite
middle finger = safety attached to 5th/front line
pinkie = Hooked in
etc. etc, but as long as it works for you.

You forgot a couple, 'Is kite pumped', 'do I have the mental capacity to fly a kite?' What's wrong with a bit of common sense and a double check, it's not that hard to remember to check that the lines are attached to the kite!
kaleidoscope
kaleidoscope
NSW
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8 Mar 2010 1:31pm
Trant said...

tmiddled said...
index finger = all lines attached to kite

A great example of a dumb mistake most of us have made at some point
Good post



Trant
Trant
NSW
601 posts
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8 Mar 2010 2:22pm
kaleidoscope said...

Trant said...

tmiddled said...
index finger = all lines attached to kite

A great example of a dumb mistake most of us have made at some point
Good post






lol, well in my mind it's the classic mistake of a rushing kitesurfer who's arrived as the wind is dying down. Especially if he's being interrupted during his setup by other kiters coming in and wanting someone to land their kite.

Hey, if you've never made a stupid mistake then good for you
kapac
kapac
69 posts
69 posts
8 Mar 2010 11:28am
Vanessa,

I'm really glad you're OK as I see you down there and you are making great progress but yesterday's dirty NE was a no,no for inexperienced kiters.

I'm sure you won't give up as you have the guts necessary for kiting.

It's very easy to forget your safety checks in the excitement.

I've had my share of kitemares while learning and now I always do a pre-flight check in steps 1,2 etc from my body to harness, chicken loop, down the length of the lines to the kite. That way everything has been assessed as 'OK to fly" before the kite is launched.

Thanks for sharing as it is a good reminder to everyone to launch towards the beach.

Go Girl!


Kathy

COL
COL
NSW
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COL COL
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8 Mar 2010 2:32pm
Crocofly said...


Describing it in a short form


I don't quite understand how you could have done these things.
I don't understand how you could have survived your 6oo passion.
But I do appreciate that you hit us with just the shortened version.
Col
Crocofly
Crocofly
NSW
15 posts
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8 Mar 2010 2:52pm
Thanks for your responses and the tips.

I just want to make clear that there is nothing wrong with the person who has sold me the kite. Also, the advice regarding lessons is very good. I have had lessons with Nick at Botany and with someone at WA. Both very much focused on safety. So it is just me who forgot - yes guys, I SIMPLY FORGOT to hook on and put the leash on. I somehow was used to always been told everything and the first time I am out there trying to fly my kite that happened.

Yes, it's stupid. And yes, the post is a bit long and maybe not in good English but I wasn't sure if everybody would have understood if I had written it in French, German or Italian.

I'm so glad that nobody got hurt.

The person I would like to get in contact wit (the one who got the kite from the street) was wearing a white long sleeve top and black & white board shorts. If anyone knows him, please let me know.
prea
prea
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8 Mar 2010 2:04pm
Can you repost when your not pist
Crocofly
Crocofly
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8 Mar 2010 3:30pm
prea said...

Can you repost when your not pist


sorry?
Jmorson
Jmorson
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8 Mar 2010 3:54pm
I dont know what the hell you just said! If that story ever had any potential to be interesting, you just killed it.
loco4olas
loco4olas
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8 Mar 2010 3:57pm
Jmorson said...

I dont know what the hell you just said! If that story ever had any potential to be interesting, you just killed it.


Go easy-English may not be her first language.
KIT33R
KIT33R
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8 Mar 2010 4:47pm
To all you guys who's passion and haste to get out on the water sometimes overrides you mental check list.

I've been kiting for 7 years on Botany Bay and surrounds and I still double check my set up, every time. My heart beat quickens, not because I'm keen to get on the water but because I know that launching is when things can go badly wrong. I'd rather self launch than have someone I don't know launch my kite.

Remember - Slow down. Double check. Clear your mind. And when your assistant is holding the kite at the edge of the window and you've looked down the lines and are sure there are no crossed, tangled or snagged lines, your chickloop is secured and safety connected, no bystanders close by, then calmly give the thumbs up.

Most people I know have had an accident that puts them off the water for at least a week. The worst ones happen on the beach.

Respect the power of the kite at all times.
lex123
lex123
NSW
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8 Mar 2010 5:58pm
Sorry to hear you had such a bad first run Vanessa. I Recommend you run through setup procedures whenever possible as well as seeking help from either instructors or DVD's if theres anything you still aren't sure of before next session. I always have my leash connected to my Harness and clipped onto my harness hook so that i can't hook into the chickenloop without first attaching the safety.
Coral Sea
Coral Sea
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8 Mar 2010 5:34pm
On this forum, apologising, while admitting to being blonde and European, is maybe not the best move ?

Crocofly
Crocofly
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8 Mar 2010 9:48pm
Alex, the tip with the clip is a good one - will do so in future.
And I have been watching the DVD for hours today (I must have hurt my neck when falling and therefore had to stay quiet in bed) and I'm sure that I am going to dream about.

Yes, guys, English is not my first language, sorry if I don't understand some of your comments. Yepp, being blond and European can bring out one sort of "aussie" behaviour, I was fully aware of this when starting this thread

I still haven't heard who that person was who reacted so well and got the kite from the street...
onemorehuey
onemorehuey
NSW
158 posts
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8 Mar 2010 10:08pm
Glad everything ended well

When you look at the wind chart and see a 6 knot difference between the peak and the average windspeed you know it is a **** day for
a- learners
b- launching on a beach no wider than the length of your lines

it goes without saying for everyone that everytime you go out you need to be confident that you are capable to handle your gear in the conditions that day.

Just cause you get to the beach and see people out doesnt mean you should go out. (check out the ben wilson vid if you need proof)

keeponsmilin

PS stick with it croc you will be flying before you know it





Era
Era
WA
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Era Era
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8 Mar 2010 7:21pm
Me too sounds like he/she 'who is he" is on crack
okin said...

This story hurts my brain


Mr float
Mr float
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8 Mar 2010 10:30pm
Bigwavedave said...

Who the hell sold you a kite???

Forgot to hook in? Forgot your leash?

Who the hell launched you? Why did they let it go?

So many questions????

One answer.......YOU NEED LESSONS!!!!!


and you need to get your hours up in moderate winds .Yes that's right you do not have to get hours up when there are gazillions of kites up ,it is really busy and full on and really windy. i can't believe that with all the noobs out there when there is a 10 kt day no one is out there practicing FLYING THEIR F'N KITES ,getting to know the blinkin thing .Light wind flying is actually really difficult and builds awesome skills LESSENING THE DANGER TO YOU AND OTHERS

and OMFG It wasn't a Cbrinha
jquigley
jquigley
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8 Mar 2010 8:14pm
If it makes you feel any better Crocofly, I have had the odd 'blonde moment' myself from time to time...

Similar story to yours, although I use the excuse that I forgot to hook safety leash on cos it was the first time I'd taken out a new kite that had a different system. Then while self launching, kite drifted down wind before taking off (at a great rate) and chicken loop somehow popped out even though i'd hooked in and thought I'd set the donkey dick in place.

Fully powered out of control 12m kite in 20+ knots, got dragged face first for a 100 or so metres down the beach. Was loathed to let it go because: A) Brand new kite, and B) Even though it was out in the middle of nowhere - north of Carnarvon W.A. - there were campers downwind and I had visions of them being decapitated by my lines

Lucky for me, kite crashed into some bushes in the dunes and no harm was done. Even my dignity remained intact as there was only some old guy camping that witnessed it. It would have made a great 60 seconds on my bloopers video clip!

One thing for certain now is the absolute first thing I do every time I setup to launch is hook the safety on. If you're prone to being a bit of a ditzy blonde (which is absolutely no crime - we all have our talents and abilities) I can highly recommend getting into habits such as ones mentioned above.

Bon Vente

J-P
Jon
Jon
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Jon Jon
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8 Mar 2010 11:26pm
Vanessa

Suggest another lesson with Nick. Your story sounds like it scrared you a lot. Before you get have another crack, get another lesson. This will get all your confidense back. Also have the lesson with your kite not the instructors, he can then teach you everything about your kite. It will be money well spent not just for your safety but any pedastrian that you can potencially kill with an out of control kite.
When you then attempt by yourself, don't be afraid to ask an experienced kiter to check your setup before you launch 95% are helpful guys.

Cheers
Crocofly
Crocofly
NSW
15 posts
NSW, 15 posts
8 Mar 2010 11:53pm
Hi,

thank you for your encouraging words and after having talked to a few people and heard many similar stories, I know that this will not be the end of my kitesurfing but it definitely has made me aware of the risks and I will take some actions.

I also feel that most people in the scene are very helpful and friendly (I had my kite setup checked by someone, got my harness adjusted by someone else, was chatting about the wind etc.) - one thing I really like about this sport. I also chose the location as it is usually a "beginners spot" as I have heard that a bit further up the beach people would not like to have beginners showing up (now I know why).

Anyway: I am still trying to identify the person who reacted so well and got my kite away from the street - who are you?

Vanessa
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