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Mr float
Mr float
NSW
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NSW, 3452 posts
22 Nov 2008 7:32pm
I note the usual increase in talk of bans around this time of year .I wish everyone luck who cares enough to keep their local open unfortunately there are not enough who do and I wonder what can be done .

we have had a loosely organised group who cared and have managed to keep the beaches open and the beach inspectors onside .most people have been pretty good natured about a total stranger (or fellow kiter ) who isn't wearing an 'official" badge pointing out that there may be a problem with their kiting/behaviour (until recently)

unfortunaely these people are totally frustrated . When we talk to lifeguards the message is self regulate (you guys had better keep your mob in line or else ) we have told the lifeguards that those who care are not always around and don't know everybody and that as they are on the beach (lifeguards ) if they see something out of line to reprimand the offender (s) .Plus there has been an alarming increase in 'who the **** are you to tell me " attitude " your not the ****in mayor of the beach,**** off " .So back to the beach inspectors and they say well simple solution is that they will ban kitesurfing full stop . They've got better things to do than chat to out of line kiters .

i'm not sure what the solution is .
gruezi
gruezi
WA
3464 posts
WA, 3464 posts
22 Nov 2008 5:38pm
Photograph these slobs and turn them in to "Wanted" posters....or just arm the beach patrol with line cutters.

Yep, it is sad how this sport is attracting people who think they are so friggen cool now...the wannabies have discovered kiting...god save us.
Coose
Coose
VIC
229 posts
VIC, 229 posts
23 Nov 2008 10:10am
Kite surfing is the rollerblading of the sea.
vader
vader
NSW
418 posts
NSW, 418 posts
23 Nov 2008 10:40am
roller bladeing my ass.
Coose
Coose
VIC
229 posts
VIC, 229 posts
23 Nov 2008 10:49am
^^^

my point proven
vader
vader
NSW
418 posts
NSW, 418 posts
23 Nov 2008 12:48pm
watch it i`ll turn you into a pork sausage.
kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
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vader
vader
NSW
418 posts
NSW, 418 posts
23 Nov 2008 2:43pm
thats funny
MagicMike
MagicMike
WA
210 posts
WA, 210 posts
23 Nov 2008 2:38pm
what are people doing wrong?
is it the same as last year with riding in the flags?
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
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23 Nov 2008 5:44pm
mick91 said...

what are people doing wrong?
is it the same as last year with riding in the flags?


not observing waterways guidelines (particularly distance from other water users ,plus riding and doing tricks close to flags and sometimes ending up with kites down drifting through flags )
its the '**** you,who the **** are you to tell me ' attitude that is the problem.So what will happen is that the council will ultimately ban kitesurfing as self regulation goes out the window .

Missy
Missy
WA
123 posts
WA, 123 posts
23 Nov 2008 4:30pm
Name and shame them.

Or, get some evidence of them not following the rules and then if you can get ASKA on board (to try and discourage people not caring for the rules), have ASKA deny them insurance coverage and then get the council to ban kiting at those beaches to anyone other than ASKA members.
Saffer
Saffer
VIC
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23 Nov 2008 6:44pm
How long does it take for people to realise self regulation doesn't work?

If it did, we wouldn't need speeding or drink driving laws. There is always someone who thinks they can drive safely at 180km/h after 12 beers, or in the case of kitesurfing, ride between bathers or on a packed beach without endangering anyone.

Mr float
Mr float
NSW
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23 Nov 2008 6:52pm
Missy said...

Name and shame them.

Or, get some evidence of them not following the rules and then if you can get ASKA on board (to try and discourage people not caring for the rules), have ASKA deny them insurance coverage and then get the council to ban kiting at those beaches to anyone other than ASKA members.


good idea but when being told to '**** off ' its hard to get hold of someones name .The aksa member only idea is a good one and was suggested here .kind of hard to enforce (beach inspectors don't have time to check ) plus no tags so far this year . Also its not really an issue of following rules so much but some respect for someone who has the courage to say something to someone who might not be aware of the local ettiquette ( or even care what it is )in order to keep their local open and are then either ignored or abused .
I don't think anyone wants a whole heap of rules ,naming and shaming and so on .its more something that seems to be creeping into society in general that unless you are a law enforcement officer you can **** off and if you are are an enforcement officer your a **** and you can **** off too .Unfortunately it has come to kiteboarding and the ultimate result will be bans unless there is a united voice and everyone at the local takes responsibility for saying g'day to new faces and giving a heads up to em on local issues .

Kalavas
Kalavas
WA
146 posts
WA, 146 posts
23 Nov 2008 6:15pm
HAng on, was I not the only person who didn't get their AKSA tag right away? I didn't receive my tag or card, but shot them an email and they mailed me a tag. There was a cable tie in the original envelope, so I think it was more an oversight than anything else.
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
3452 posts
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23 Nov 2008 8:43pm
Kalavas said...

HAng on, was I not the only person who didn't get their AKSA tag right away? I didn't receive my tag or card, but shot them an email and they mailed me a tag. There was a cable tie in the original envelope, so I think it was more an oversight than anything else.


I usually join aksa but this year joined nswkba .Excuse my ignorance but is a tag issued if you join state association ( i was not trying to make an issue out of this,no biggie )
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
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NSW, 3452 posts
23 Nov 2008 9:16pm
Saffer said...

How long does it take for people to realise self regulation doesn't work?

If it did, we wouldn't need speeding or drink driving laws. There is always someone who thinks they can drive safely at 180km/h after 12 beers, or in the case of kitesurfing, ride between bathers or on a packed beach without endangering anyone.




here you go .heres what happens then.The local council will do it for you


Smedg
Smedg
NSW
836 posts
NSW, 836 posts
23 Nov 2008 9:27pm
I don't understand that sign at all.. Do others? (i get it means no kiting. but the swimming confuses me)
theDoctor
theDoctor
NSW
5786 posts
NSW, 5786 posts
23 Nov 2008 9:32pm
no black people kiting
no black fans
no black people wind w@nking
no black swimmers
no black sport

white swimmers only

pretty racist when you think about it isn't it
Smedg
Smedg
NSW
836 posts
NSW, 836 posts
23 Nov 2008 9:36pm
maybe does it mean you can kite but not between the flags. (blue representing between the flags??) that means you can't swim outside the flags. you cant do the the other things at all but you can kite everywhere 'cept between the flags.. if so, nice sign.

Sorry mr float. Ive steered off topic.

Guess We'll just keep talking sense into those that will listen hoping the rest will follow suit eventually.
sofled
sofled
WA
53 posts
WA, 53 posts
23 Nov 2008 7:42pm
kite design looks like a sling shot, has the grafics like a fuel.

the kitesurfing picture is nice and detailed i like it haha hair blowing, the poleys picture looks like he got a pole somewere it aint meant to be.

nice racist explanation haha made me laugh
Splaat
Splaat
NSW
131 posts
NSW, 131 posts
23 Nov 2008 10:27pm
I was talking to a German mate, he said in Euro where he goes kiting you have to look after your kite beach or it gets banned quick, if a ****er turns up and kites badly, they ask nicely as a group of 4 or more people, if he is still a ****er on the water, all 4 or more of them kite right next to him and behind him so he gets pissed of and doesn't come back.

At kurnell they self police fairly well I hear.

one guy going up to some too cool ****er wont work. if you can form a group of friends and approach as a group that may work.

We had some ****ers turn up at our beach doing handle passes and wake style tricks near and in the flags, Must have been 20 kiters out and no one said anything to them.

I don't know what the solution is, but there needs to be one soon.
Splaat
Splaat
NSW
131 posts
NSW, 131 posts
23 Nov 2008 10:29pm
WTF? the forum stars out the word ****+er? Thats not a swear word is it?
Splaat
Splaat
NSW
131 posts
NSW, 131 posts
23 Nov 2008 10:30pm
w+a-n+k-e+r the word is not a crime.
merman
merman
QLD
431 posts
QLD, 431 posts
24 Nov 2008 1:02am
the world is going to HELL in a handbasket...


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