pop to get max slack

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MannyBlanch
MannyBlanch
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QLD, 138 posts
15 Feb 2015 5:29pm
check out how much slack i get in this vid. A gust hit mid way through the trick.

loftsofwind
loftsofwind
QLD
226 posts
QLD, 226 posts
15 Feb 2015 5:48pm
MannyBlanch said..
check out how much slack i get in this vid. A gust hit mid way through the trick.



Wowee thats mental!
iandvnt
iandvnt
QLD
581 posts
QLD, 581 posts
15 Feb 2015 7:35pm
that kite flies forward mental style then luffs :-0
kemp90
kemp90
QLD
1694 posts
QLD, 1694 posts
15 Feb 2015 8:01pm
MannyBlanch said...
check out how much slack i get in this vid. A gust hit mid way through the trick.



Faark, that makes me a little moist!
kemp90
kemp90
QLD
1694 posts
QLD, 1694 posts
15 Feb 2015 8:06pm
Thanks all for you imput and passing on your knowledge. After putting all into play, I now have pop double the size and so much slack I don't no what to do with. Turns out my biggest problems were speed and lack of downwind!

Once agen thanks!
MannyBlanch
MannyBlanch
QLD
138 posts
QLD, 138 posts
15 Feb 2015 8:07pm
also another video showing what happens when u cut just a little longer on a back mobe

Trotdog
Trotdog
QLD
15 posts
QLD, 15 posts
15 Feb 2015 8:38pm
MannyBlanch said..
check out how much slack i get in this vid. A gust hit mid way through the trick.



holy **** i want that kite so bad
Big eeeZeee
Big eeeZeee
NSW
1100 posts
NSW, 1100 posts
16 Feb 2015 12:02am
i thought the pros only head down wind when they are really lit to take some pressure out of the kite so they can get a decent edge?
I know they especially do this when it's cranking near 35knots. If you watch Ewan Jaspen he doesn't bear off much down wind when loading up. Pastor was bearing off heaps down wind in the pond when i was there but i'm pretty sure he was lit on his 9m at the time. I don't think this technique holds true for all conditions?
tomme
tomme
VIC
475 posts
VIC, 475 posts
16 Feb 2015 10:22am
Can depend on kite and conditions-if it is windy in a razor can bare off to check speed a bit when over powered, if light can jsut cut and slam the edge in as the kite surges when unhooked where as something like a switchblade or rpm pulls in the same kind of arc all the way so not as much benefit.'

just from what ive found
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
16 Feb 2015 4:55pm
Ewan Jaspan doesn't bear off as much due to board rather than kite. Pastor has a flatter board so bearing off lets the kite drift back a bit more and lets him set a deeper rail in the water.

All this talk is pretty random, because it's going to be totally different depending on your kite/ board/ setup/ weight.

As a heavier guy riding a rockered board, like Ewan I don't have to bear off that much. Most tricks I hold a pretty steady fast line, unhook keeping a similar tension and then throw the trick... It also depends a lot on what trick you want to throw, the wind speed and the pop needed for it. For Toeside pop I will always bear off a lot more.

You should all watch that cable vid some guy posted at the start of the thread to understand the different types of loading required for different tricks.

Also Drury was on it, you should all focus more on actually doing the trick rather than swapping the handle. As soon as you focus on that more your riding will get 10 times better.
KyeEvans
KyeEvans
QLD
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QLD, 118 posts
17 Feb 2015 10:22am
speed = pop
tomme
tomme
VIC
475 posts
VIC, 475 posts
17 Feb 2015 12:48pm
KyeEvans said..
Technique + speed = pop



sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
17 Feb 2015 10:29pm
Also forgot to add that whoever said keeping your arms straight is a good idea couldn't be further from the truth. Keeping your arms straight is terrible technique and considered bad style amongst wakeboarders/wakestylers. For almost every trick you want to keep your arms slightly bent (even raileys).
dachopper
dachopper
WA
1802 posts
WA, 1802 posts
18 Feb 2015 4:06pm
That was me about the straighten, and your 100% correct, I would never lock my arms either.

What I meant was - if you check out the first video at the 10 second mark - you can see that even before the board has left the water, kemp90 is already starting to do a pullup towards the bar, which is keeping his head / chest, shoulder / arms angle locked in to get the pass done and stopping his board from getting full pop power, rather than using the momentum of the board to throw the board back further giving more height / time, and then doing the pullup if needed.

This is really well illustrated by the pond video, where you can see two distinctively different movemets, the pop and rotate, then the fall onto the bar and pass - even with a pause in between on some of them

For the pond jumps that are small or low to the water - or done from towside , to me these look more similar to the passes that kemp is doing. as they are also not max pop - more of a compromise for body positioining
saltydawg
saltydawg
WA
132 posts
WA, 132 posts
3 Mar 2015 9:33pm
I tried shortening the 5th line on my razor by about an inch. Definitely noticed more slack however the tensioned 5th took a bit of power out of the kite which made made getting upwind slower (plus my board isnt the best going upwind). Next time ill shorten it by1/2 inch.
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